HJS {l Wrote}:Was BC a land grant school with 30k undergrads in 2008?
Agreed we were always screwed under this new model (whatever it is).
Again, enjoy big-time college football for the next few years because it's coming to an end at BC very soon.
HJS {l Wrote}:Was BC a land grant school with 30k undergrads in 2008?
FSU Board Chair Peter Collins says the board has been left "no choice" but to challenge the ACC's Grant of Rights. "We’ve exhausted all possible remedies within the conference. We must do what’s best for Florida State not only in the short term, but also in the longterm."
DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:Thamel Tweeting the meeting:FSU Board Chair Peter Collins says the board has been left "no choice" but to challenge the ACC's Grant of Rights. "We’ve exhausted all possible remedies within the conference. We must do what’s best for Florida State not only in the short term, but also in the longterm."
HJS {l Wrote}:DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:Thamel Tweeting the meeting:FSU Board Chair Peter Collins says the board has been left "no choice" but to challenge the ACC's Grant of Rights. "We’ve exhausted all possible remedies within the conference. We must do what’s best for Florida State not only in the short term, but also in the longterm."
They sued the ACC challenging the $130mm exit fee.
https://espn.com/college-football/story ... drawal-fee
Manny {l Wrote}:There will be two dozen Legal Experts appearing on sports channels and local news broadcasts the next few days opining on this (and millions of them posting on Twitter and message boards). None of them have any idea what will happen because like six people alive have seen and read the relevant documents. Two of them even understood what they read.
Of course I suspect that none of it matters, as FSU is just trying to create leverage to get the ACC to agree to stop splitting TV revenue evenly. A bunch of guys at Greenberg are already excited for their billables next year, though.
claver2010 {l Wrote}:i'm not a law talking expert but submitting the lawsuit riddled with typos probably isn't a good look
innocentbystander {l Wrote}:A lot of people here predicting the distant future with all too much confidence and certainty. I am curious where you all got your crystal balls? Moreover, please post the winning Powerball numbers.
BCEagles25 {l Wrote}:innocentbystander {l Wrote}:A lot of people here predicting the distant future with all too much confidence and certainty. I am curious where you all got your crystal balls? Moreover, please post the winning Powerball numbers.
Ah. Uh-huh. Well I say if you’re paying $120-$400mil for the exact same program with worse championship odds, you’re a fucking fool. For that money you can hire personal trainers and coaches for each individual player until the sun explodes. There is no program or player reinvestment with this spend; just different opponents and a different TV contract. So yeah it’s dumb.
innocentbystander {l Wrote}:BCEagles25 {l Wrote}:innocentbystander {l Wrote}:A lot of people here predicting the distant future with all too much confidence and certainty. I am curious where you all got your crystal balls? Moreover, please post the winning Powerball numbers.
Ah. Uh-huh. Well I say if you’re paying $120-$400mil for the exact same program with worse championship odds, you’re a fucking fool. For that money you can hire personal trainers and coaches for each individual player until the sun explodes. There is no program or player reinvestment with this spend; just different opponents and a different TV contract. So yeah it’s dumb.
I am not saying you are wrong. I am not saying that you are right. You could be right.
All I'm saying is that I don't know for sure what will happen in the not too distant future and I don't think anyone here does either. Did anyone predict that Oregon State and Wazzou would permanently nut themselves right out of real college football by being forced into the WCC? I didn't see that coming but Drew Bledsoe is probably groaning about this every day.
innocentbystander {l Wrote}:BCEagles25 {l Wrote}:innocentbystander {l Wrote}:A lot of people here predicting the distant future with all too much confidence and certainty. I am curious where you all got your crystal balls? Moreover, please post the winning Powerball numbers.
Ah. Uh-huh. Well I say if you’re paying $120-$400mil for the exact same program with worse championship odds, you’re a fucking fool. For that money you can hire personal trainers and coaches for each individual player until the sun explodes. There is no program or player reinvestment with this spend; just different opponents and a different TV contract. So yeah it’s dumb.
I am not saying you are wrong. I am not saying that you are right. You could be right.
All I'm saying is that I don't know for sure what will happen in the not too distant future and I don't think anyone here does either. Did anyone predict that Oregon State and Wazzou would permanently nut themselves right out of real college football by being forced into the WCC? I didn't see that coming but Drew Bledsoe is probably groaning about this every day.
Bryn Mawr Eagle {l Wrote}:innocentbystander {l Wrote}:BCEagles25 {l Wrote}:innocentbystander {l Wrote}:A lot of people here predicting the distant future with all too much confidence and certainty. I am curious where you all got your crystal balls? Moreover, please post the winning Powerball numbers.
Ah. Uh-huh. Well I say if you’re paying $120-$400mil for the exact same program with worse championship odds, you’re a fucking fool. For that money you can hire personal trainers and coaches for each individual player until the sun explodes. There is no program or player reinvestment with this spend; just different opponents and a different TV contract. So yeah it’s dumb.
I am not saying you are wrong. I am not saying that you are right. You could be right.
All I'm saying is that I don't know for sure what will happen in the not too distant future and I don't think anyone here does either. Did anyone predict that Oregon State and Wazzou would permanently nut themselves right out of real college football by being forced into the WCC? I didn't see that coming but Drew Bledsoe is probably groaning about this every day.
This is an internet message board. The whole point of it is for idiots like me to be able to opine on all manner of nonsense with entirely unjustified confidence and certainty.
Bryn Mawr Eagle {l Wrote}:innocentbystander {l Wrote}:BCEagles25 {l Wrote}:innocentbystander {l Wrote}:A lot of people here predicting the distant future with all too much confidence and certainty. I am curious where you all got your crystal balls? Moreover, please post the winning Powerball numbers.
Ah. Uh-huh. Well I say if you’re paying $120-$400mil for the exact same program with worse championship odds, you’re a fucking fool. For that money you can hire personal trainers and coaches for each individual player until the sun explodes. There is no program or player reinvestment with this spend; just different opponents and a different TV contract. So yeah it’s dumb.
I am not saying you are wrong. I am not saying that you are right. You could be right.
All I'm saying is that I don't know for sure what will happen in the not too distant future and I don't think anyone here does either. Did anyone predict that Oregon State and Wazzou would permanently nut themselves right out of real college football by being forced into the WCC? I didn't see that coming but Drew Bledsoe is probably groaning about this every day.
This is an internet message board. The whole point of it is for idiots like me to be able to opine on all manner of nonsense with entirely unjustified confidence and certainty.
HJS {l Wrote}:innocentbystander {l Wrote}:BCEagles25 {l Wrote}:innocentbystander {l Wrote}:A lot of people here predicting the distant future with all too much confidence and certainty. I am curious where you all got your crystal balls? Moreover, please post the winning Powerball numbers.
Ah. Uh-huh. Well I say if you’re paying $120-$400mil for the exact same program with worse championship odds, you’re a fucking fool. For that money you can hire personal trainers and coaches for each individual player until the sun explodes. There is no program or player reinvestment with this spend; just different opponents and a different TV contract. So yeah it’s dumb.
I am not saying you are wrong. I am not saying that you are right. You could be right.
All I'm saying is that I don't know for sure what will happen in the not too distant future and I don't think anyone here does either. Did anyone predict that Oregon State and Wazzou would permanently nut themselves right out of real college football by being forced into the WCC? I didn't see that coming but Drew Bledsoe is probably groaning about this every day.
The fact that you had to go all the way back to Drew Bledsoe when you were trying to remember an NFL player from either school means you probably should have saw that coming.
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
As much as I can't stand FSU and think this whole this is saber-rattling, this is the end of BC Football.
BCEagles25 {l Wrote}:Does anyone see a scenario in the UGA FSU game that is good for the ACC? If FSU loses “wow a bad team can run through an ACC schedule undefeated” and if they win “looks like they’re ready and could benefit from megaconference competition after all, let’s do it”
Maybe a very close FSU loss?
HJS {l Wrote}:The opting out thing is the same for both teams. But, when you cull together a team of hired guns to make a run while you still have your elite QB (who is himself a transfer), you should not be surprised that they aren’t as invested in the program as the guys on the other sideline.
FSU has nothing but football. It is not an academic institution. It is not a strong alumni network. It is a stadium that had the fortune of a great coach who recruited elite athletes from his backyard at a time where distance was still a factor. It is wildly understandable why that fanbase would act irrationally at the thought that their return to relevance could be brief.
ATLeagle {l Wrote}:HJS {l Wrote}:The opting out thing is the same for both teams. But, when you cull together a team of hired guns to make a run while you still have your elite QB (who is himself a transfer), you should not be surprised that they aren’t as invested in the program as the guys on the other sideline.
FSU has nothing but football. It is not an academic institution. It is not a strong alumni network. It is a stadium that had the fortune of a great coach who recruited elite athletes from his backyard at a time where distance was still a factor. It is wildly understandable why that fanbase would act irrationally at the thought that their return to relevance could be brief.
FSU fans and leaders overestimate their worth. However, they should always be good given the depth of talent within 100 miles of the school. Florida and Miami are in a similar boat. When those schools are not winning, it is on the coaching. The talent available to them is ridiculous. Texas and Georgia show that once you put an above average Head Coach in charge with a ridiculously talented local recruiting territory, winning follows. Look at LSU. Talent is so deep in their backyard that Miles and Orgeron won National Championships.
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