flyingelvii {l Wrote}:I'm doing nothing of what you say outside of saying your proposal to limit the amount of early-20s people in college hockey is, like a lot of your ideas, dumb and shortsighted.
The 20/21 year old freshman are likely more talented than the 18/19 year old freshmen who would be replacing them. Therefore, by limiting the amount of 20/21 year olds coming into college hockey, you are making it a worse overall product. If you are a 18/19 year old getting beat out by a 20/21 year old, you are likely a fringe player at best. That is bad for college hockey overall and, I would argue, bad for the more talented, age appropriate kids who are playing since they are trying to develop against worse talent. That then leads more people to take the Juniors route because they have a higher talent level and you are also getting paid and can earn free years of college paid for by the Junior team while you focus on hockey and the better competition.
But I'm sure you thought all of this through.
BostonCollege1 {l Wrote}:flyingelvii {l Wrote}:I'm doing nothing of what you say outside of saying your proposal to limit the amount of early-20s people in college hockey is, like a lot of your ideas, dumb and shortsighted.
The 20/21 year old freshman are likely more talented than the 18/19 year old freshmen who would be replacing them. Therefore, by limiting the amount of 20/21 year olds coming into college hockey, you are making it a worse overall product. If you are a 18/19 year old getting beat out by a 20/21 year old, you are likely a fringe player at best. That is bad for college hockey overall and, I would argue, bad for the more talented, age appropriate kids who are playing since they are trying to develop against worse talent. That then leads more people to take the Juniors route because they have a higher talent level and you are also getting paid and can earn free years of college paid for by the Junior team while you focus on hockey and the better competition.
But I'm sure you thought all of this through.
I don't want to say that I agree with Corners, because I'd rather shoot myself, but the 18/19 year old freshmen are the kids from the USNDP, who are mostly expected to be top draft picks, and leave early. The teams currently getting most of them? BC, BU, Michigan, Minnesota, North Dakota (who dropped two games to Canisius)...
Where Corners is completely off the rails is that for the kids who are late bloomers, or slightly less talented - more size, strength and experience does matter, and yes, they are getting better. To state otherwise would mean that every player would be at their best at 18, and never improve.
Eaglekeeper {l Wrote}:No, they do not improve to a level that it makes sense not to start their college careers by age 19. By age 23-25 they should be in the AHL or Europe getting paid. You’re cutting down on their earning years by denying them admission to college for 2-3 years. This is college hockey, not semi-pro hockey.
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:A 7-2 loss to Maine is a new low for this team
BostonCollege1 {l Wrote}:eepstein0 {l Wrote}:A 7-2 loss to Maine is a new low for this team
Having sat through both that game and the Bentley game, I'm not sure which is worse. At least Maine has a couple of kids with talent.
I was optimistic after last week's win over PC; BC outfought them and deserved the win. Last night was an absolute mail-in job. Edquist was good early, then lost confidence after getting hung out to dry. He'd make the initial save, then no one would clear the rebound. Fitzgerald, McInnis ("leading" the decline with his -10), Finkelstein... all terrible. Same for Dudek. Hutsko (-6) and McPhee (-8) have taken a step backwards, and Grando has been invisible. Rasanen passed instead of shooting on a half-open net. This team has no heart and no confidence now.
If Jerry doesn't want to retire, his first step should be to replace Marty with a new assistant who's willing to kick some ass, then bench his kid. I'm not sure what Buckley has brought, either, as the D has been terrible.
flyingelvii {l Wrote}:Adapt or die.
You don’t change the eligibility rules because then you hurt the overall talent of college hockey. And most play at crappy schools as noted above so there’s no reason to really fix a non-issue.
So another dumb post by Corners!
flyingelvii {l Wrote}:Thanks for your continued great insight and input in the form of five word posts!
flyingelvii {l Wrote}:And brevity with no point is wasted words when incessantly trying to act like the smartest person in the room.
claver2010 {l Wrote}:Nice win yesterday even though they were dominated for long stretches only to get bailed out consistently by Woll
Would’ve been interesting to see the type of numbers and trophies he’d rack up if he had the talent from ‘10-‘14 or so in front of him
Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}:claver2010 {l Wrote}:Nice win yesterday even though they were dominated for long stretches only to get bailed out consistently by Woll
Would’ve been interesting to see the type of numbers and trophies he’d rack up if he had the talent from ‘10-‘14 or so in front of him
You have to feel for Woll. He is not and has never been the problem. I’d also venture to say he is probably the reason they won the last two HE regular season titles. Wahlstrom has looked good, but it is remarkable how much the sophomores have regressed. McPhee looks absolutely lost.
Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}:This fucking team is a gutless disgrace. Just when I think they couldn’t be worse, they find a new way to shit the bed. I think I actually hate them as they combine all the worst traits of Lenny’s epic underachievers and Cedar’s brain dead imbeciles. Are we sure Jerry is still coaching this trainwreck? I pray this isn’t a Weekend at Bernie’s scenario where Jerry has passed and Marty McInnis is hiding it because he knows he’ll never get a job coaching anything above pee weed again and hilarity ensues.
Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}:This fucking team is a gutless disgrace. Just when I think they couldn’t be worse, they find a new way to shit the bed. I think I actually hate them as they combine all the worst traits of Lenny’s epic underachievers and Cedar’s brain dead imbeciles. Are we sure Jerry is still coaching this trainwreck? I pray this isn’t a Weekend at Bernie’s scenario where Jerry has passed and Marty McInnis is hiding it because he knows he’ll never get a job coaching anything above pee weed again and hilarity ensues.
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}:This fucking team is a gutless disgrace. Just when I think they couldn’t be worse, they find a new way to shit the bed. I think I actually hate them as they combine all the worst traits of Lenny’s epic underachievers and Cedar’s brain dead imbeciles. Are we sure Jerry is still coaching this trainwreck? I pray this isn’t a Weekend at Bernie’s scenario where Jerry has passed and Marty McInnis is hiding it because he knows he’ll never get a job coaching anything above pee weed again and hilarity ensues.
That was pretty awful last night
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