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Eaglekeeper {l Wrote}:Thad Matt’s named coach at Butler. I’m sure Pat Kraft never approached him.

Go Eagles!

Logitano {l Wrote}:Is pitino willing to leave Iona?

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Hafley might be available after next season.

Logitano {l Wrote}:

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Hafley might be available after next season.

Your source saying anything about Jay Wright coming to BC next year?

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Logitano {l Wrote}:

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Hafley might be available after next season.

Your source saying anything about Jay Wright coming to BC next year?

So wait, I sold that stupid rumor and you think you should use it against me? LOL no wonder BC still has 6 fans.

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Logitano {l Wrote}:

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Hafley might be available after next season.

Your source saying anything about Jay Wright coming to BC next year?

So wait, I sold that stupid rumor and you think you should use it against me? LOL no wonder BC still has 6 fans.

I swear this is true: one of my high school teammates was on the staff at Syracuse in those days, and called me out of the blue when we hadn't spoken in like two years. He asked me for some perspective on BC because, according to his counterpart on Villanova's bench, we were chasing Jay Wright and it looked like it had legs, and he was thinking about trying to get a job with Wright if he moved.

Manny {l Wrote}:

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:

Logitano {l Wrote}:

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Hafley might be available after next season.

Your source saying anything about Jay Wright coming to BC next year?

So wait, I sold that stupid rumor and you think you should use it against me? LOL no wonder BC still has 6 fans.

I swear this is true: one of my high school teammates was on the staff at Syracuse in those days, and called me out of the blue when we hadn't spoken in like two years. He asked me for some perspective on BC because, according to his counterpart on Villanova's bench, we were chasing Jay Wright and it looked like it had legs, and he was thinking about trying to get a job with Wright if he moved.

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HJS {l Wrote}:Sean Miller out in Zona. Tough offseason for the Miller boys.

If Tommy Lloyd ends up at Arizona, I will be a bit frustrated. He would have been in the mix last year if not for COVID saving JC. This year we obviously went with "head coaching experience" as a must.

Be a bit frustrated.

Interesting to see that this hire is not getting universal approval within Wildcat nation. Support is a lukewarm 60-40 percent. The McHale Center Mafia seems to think they should have been able to pry away a proven winner of a head coach—frustration that Heeke didn’t take a run at Beard, which I had not heard anything about until today’s hiring was announced. And a lot of angst that they couldn’t make that kind of hire (remember, they lured Olsen away from a far more established Iowa program back in the day and got Miller from Xavier when there were several baby rapists seeking his services) because (a) Heeke imploded the athletic budget and (b) Heeke didn’t cut ties with Miller sooner and got the NCAA sanctions behind them.

Lots of anger at “Mid Major Dave” across the Interwebs.

I think it is understandable. He has lived his entire life in Washington and spent 20 years as an assistant who focused almost exclusively as an international recruiter. For a school like Zona, who views themselves as a basketball blue blood, it is underwhelming. The international thing could've worked at a crap program like BC. But, Zona thinks they should be landing Mickey D diaper dandies. And, then there is the never a head coach thing. Teddy is right that it is idiotic to limit a search (the worse the program, the dumber it is to constrain). Ultimately, you are hiring a person... not a resume. That said, Arizona likely feels that they should be able to poach pretty much any coach they wanted. And, if you were going to go the unproved route, they should've done it with someone from within the family (like a school legend toiling away as Pacific's head coach).

It’s entirely understandable, and the truth is it is ridiculous that Heeke kept Miller around for almost two years after he should have been fired or that he didn’t take a run at an established winner like Beard. I get why they didn’t make a run at Moser—probably not the right fit in terms of recruiting—but it does not sit well in Tucson that Oregon has got Altman and UCLA has Cronin and they are taking a chance on a guy who has never run a program. A lot of comparisons being drawn with Hopkins at U-Dub, which is not a good thing.

Interestingly, there was zero clamoring for Stoudemire. And I don’t think his hiring would be better received—more likely, it would be even more of a “meh” reaction. General consensus is he isn’t ready for prime time. He has surpassed expectations at Pacific, which is a graveyard job for football and basketball coaches, but the feeling is that he ought to parlay that into a better mid-major program job and show he can win there before he would be ready for a job like Zona. Nor was there any clamoring for Pastner, because he has pretty much hit a perfect level of medicority since Memphis moved from Conference USA to the AAC—his subsequent performance at Georgia Tech being equally meh (and including a recruiting scandal). Luke Walton is pretty much the only alum who might have entertained the job who would have excited the alumni and fan base.

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Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}:Also interesting to see the Baby Rapists came for Porter Moser. I am fairly certain he will fail miserably at Oklahoma, but that is precisely the sort of job where you take the money. He’ll likely quadruple his current salary ($1.4 million) and will get a five year deal. When he flames out in five years, assuming he still wants to coach, he’ll land at someplace like DePaul where he’ll get paid in the neighborhood of $2 million a year. A completely different scenario from Beard and a win-win for Moser.

I am interested to see who Steve Watson hires for the Loyola job. He is one of the best basketball ADs out there and whoever he hires is someone BC ought to have a file on for future reference when the Electric Avenue era of BC basketball ends with yet another whimper.

What happens if Steve Watson hires Dennis Gates? Would you then be suggesting we should’ve taken a Cleveland Steamer?

No. In the unlikely event Watson hires the Cleveland Steamer I suggest we open a file on him and watch how Watson works with him so if/when he is successful we can try and hire the now proven candidate and provide him with the resources he is getting at ULC so we can replicate that success. With that said, with the fundraising prowess Watson has demonstrated and the fact that ULC has a new practice facility and can pay $2 million a year, I think Watson might go the route of hiring a mid-major success who underperformed at a P6 level. Arch Miller would make a lot of sense under the circumstances.

Mizzou beats out SoCar in the battle for hiring the Cleveland Steamer.

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Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}:Also interesting to see the Baby Rapists came for Porter Moser. I am fairly certain he will fail miserably at Oklahoma, but that is precisely the sort of job where you take the money. He’ll likely quadruple his current salary ($1.4 million) and will get a five year deal. When he flames out in five years, assuming he still wants to coach, he’ll land at someplace like DePaul where he’ll get paid in the neighborhood of $2 million a year. A completely different scenario from Beard and a win-win for Moser.

I am interested to see who Steve Watson hires for the Loyola job. He is one of the best basketball ADs out there and whoever he hires is someone BC ought to have a file on for future reference when the Electric Avenue era of BC basketball ends with yet another whimper.

What happens if Steve Watson hires Dennis Gates? Would you then be suggesting we should’ve taken a Cleveland Steamer?

No. In the unlikely event Watson hires the Cleveland Steamer I suggest we open a file on him and watch how Watson works with him so if/when he is successful we can try and hire the now proven candidate and provide him with the resources he is getting at ULC so we can replicate that success. With that said, with the fundraising prowess Watson has demonstrated and the fact that ULC has a new practice facility and can pay $2 million a year, I think Watson might go the route of hiring a mid-major success who underperformed at a P6 level. Arch Miller would make a lot of sense under the circumstances.

Mizzou beats out SoCar in the battle for hiring the Cleveland Steamer.

https://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns ... 3b1ec.html

Dennis Gates proving that Pat Kraft was as right as AngryDick.

claver2010 {l Wrote}:some interesting jobs already open

i don't see cooley jumping to georgetown, just parlaying interest into more $ (like he did w mich)
pitino to st. johns seems inevitable, rick can keep his house on winged foot
pastner taking his vizor and wallmart outfits elsewhere

HJS {l Wrote}:Chris Beard is available.

claver2010 {l Wrote}:guess i'm wrong

@JonRothstein
Ed Cooley put his Rhode Island home on the market for sale this morning, per Zillow.

BCSUPERFAN22 {l Wrote}:

claver2010 {l Wrote}:guess i'm wrong

@JonRothstein
Ed Cooley put his Rhode Island home on the market for sale this morning, per Zillow.

The amount of money they are rumored to be spending on Cooley is disgusting and for what hes accomplished at Providence, quite frankly, not worth it.

Whats even worse, you can basically match up the signing of his home sales disclosure form with PC's season tanking (signed day before Seton Hall game end of season where they got blown out). Really surprised he handled this so poorly and basically threw the season away.

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claver2010 {l Wrote}:guess i'm wrong

@JonRothstein
Ed Cooley put his Rhode Island home on the market for sale this morning, per Zillow.

The amount of money they are rumored to be spending on Cooley is disgusting and for what hes accomplished at Providence, quite frankly, not worth it.

Whats even worse, you can basically match up the signing of his home sales disclosure form with PC's season tanking (signed day before Seton Hall game end of season where they got blown out). Really surprised he handled this so poorly and basically threw the season away.

I'd be thrilled with the level of success Cooley had at PC, but that's insane money for him.

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claver2010 {l Wrote}:guess i'm wrong

@JonRothstein
Ed Cooley put his Rhode Island home on the market for sale this morning, per Zillow.

The amount of money they are rumored to be spending on Cooley is disgusting and for what hes accomplished at Providence, quite frankly, not worth it.

Whats even worse, you can basically match up the signing of his home sales disclosure form with PC's season tanking (signed day before Seton Hall game end of season where they got blown out). Really surprised he handled this so poorly and basically threw the season away.

I'd be thrilled with the level of success Cooley had at PC, but that's insane money for him.

7 tournaments in 12 years is infinitely better than zero since 2009.

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:The idea that the Danny Hurley I played against in high school is a top choice for the BC hoop job is hilarious. The dude was deadly from three if you didn't force him to go right, but he literally couldn't spell "Hurley"

2001Eagle {l Wrote}:

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:The idea that the Danny Hurley I played against in high school is a top choice for the BC hoop job is hilarious. The dude was deadly from three if you didn't force him to go right, but he literally couldn't spell "Hurley"

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