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Yeah i dont think we should be here at all. Thoughts?

...Where?

The reporter for the Raleigh paper picked BC 3rd, and the ATL guy picked BC 2nd. I doubt that's either the reporters or coaches votes. Wanna link to the high school blog you were looking at?

I just saw this on ESPN...We were picked to finish 9th in the ACC behind UNC, Duke, Clemson,GT, Maryland, Wake, Fla St., Virginia Tech...Only Miami, UVA, and NC St behind us

I just saw this on ESPN...We were picked to finish 9th in the ACC behind UNC, Duke, Clemson,GT, Maryland, Wake, Fla St., Virginia Tech...Only Miami, UVA, and NC St behind us

PR Eagle lies NOT:

http://bceagles.cstv.com/sports/m-baskb ... 09aaa.html

Frick'n bull$hit. But as far as I'm concerned it's great news. Start the season with a chip on our shoulder. Prove them wrong. That's when we're at our best. The last thing we need as we transition to new leadership (e.g. the post-Rice era) is front-runner status anointed by the media.....

Acc press confrence.

i was hoping as you were that we wouldnt be ranked high

9th?

this is all because of the Harvard loss.

9th? I guarantee we will not finish 9th or below. Gotta love the media.

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:9th? I guarantee we will not finish 9th or below. Gotta love the media.

yeah i was thinking the same thing, the worst BC will possibly finish is 9th. BC's never predicted to be were they should be, its always the worst case scenario

I just feel that after Duke and UNC, who are the favorites but won't run away with the conference, there is a group of 5-6 teams that will beat the shit out of each other for positioning. I would not be shocked if BC, Clemson, G. Tech, Maryland, Wake, and Florida State finished anywhere from 3-8, what I mean is I wouldn't be shocked if BC finished anywhere from 2nd to 8th. I expect us to be fighting for a first round bye in the ACC tournament and make the tournament. We have a tough schedule as we play Duke and Clemson twice, but if we defend home court and beat the lesser teams on the road we will be in great shape. I'm really exited to see what this group can do.

I'd say we are clearly a better team than Wake and Maryland, and probably better than GTech. If there is one coach who manages to get the least out of his talent, its Paul Hewitt. This ranking just further illustrates that the "they lost Rice" storyline will dominate the early season headlines. It will be nice to prove "the experts" wrong again.

Yeah and they picked BC 11th last year. Nothing here to get worked up about; they were wrong then and they'll be wrong now.

I liked Rice a lot but I think they will be better without him. That's nothing on him but he clearly tried to do too much last year and it hurt them on more than one occasion.

I haven't really thought about hoops in a while, but I remember watching last year's team and thinking they won't miss a beat with Rice gone, because everyone else on the team will be a year older.

They'll be fine.

As I've said on other threads, the good news, regardless of preseason rankings, is that this team has a great opportunity early in the season to capture some respect and attention. There is a stong possiblity that this team will play Purdue, Providence, and Michigan in a 10 day span. 3 wins here and this will be a top 20 team by the 1st week of December. Circle the game @Michigan during the B10 challenge. A win in Ann Arbor will turn some heads.

is the ACC taking bets on this? I'd be happy to put up all of my savings that we finish better than 9th. We're a lock for top 4 and will contend for the ACC title.

Rice fucking sucked. There, I said it.

bcbcbcbcbc4444 {l Wrote}:

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:9th? I guarantee we will not finish 9th or below. Gotta love the media.

yeah i was thinking the same thing, the worst BC will possibly finish is 9th. BC's never predicted to be were they should be, its always the worst case scenario

The worst BC finishes is third. Fuck that.

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Rice fucking sucked. There, I said it.

This premise deserves it's own thread. If you mean he sucked as a teammate (on the court), I disagree. If you mean his skill set and propensities limited the growth/ceiling for the team, I agree in part.

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Rice fucking sucked. There, I said it.

No. Not at all, actually. He was "oozing" with talent, but he just doesn't help a team that much.

BCEagles25 {l Wrote}:

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Rice fucking sucked. There, I said it.

No. Not at all, actually. He was "oozing" with talent, but he just doesn't help a team that much.

I wouldn't even say he helped the team "that much". I don't think he helped the team at all.

commavegarage {l Wrote}:

BCEagles25 {l Wrote}:

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Rice fucking sucked. There, I said it.

No. Not at all, actually. He was "oozing" with talent, but he just doesn't help a team that much.

I wouldn't even say he helped the team "that much". I don't think he helped the team at all.

He did at times, but you can't deny his talent. He did some things that were way over his teammates' heads (which lead to turnovers).

Rice was at his best with he was that scoring threat off the bench for those good BC teams.

His style didn't really fit into the flex and it was evident in some games last year. Which wasn't great since the ball was in his hands most of the time.

Paris is a better fit for the offense, so let's hope he reminds some people of Louis Hinnant, one of the most underrated players to come through BC.

Brablc {l Wrote}: Paris is a better fit for the offense, so let's hope he reminds some people of Louis Hinnant, one of the most underrated players to come through BC.

I thought Rice helped the team the most his freshman and sophomore years. He played next to Louis his first year and had Craig and Dudley as scoring options, then the next year he had Dudley and Marshall (I don't think he played a lot with Marshall in 2005-06). In 2007-08 he was the primary scoring option as the team was young but didn't do a good job working the other guys in, then last year when he had to, he couldn't.

If Biko could be another Louis Hinnant, I like our chances.

EagleNYC {l Wrote}:

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Rice fucking sucked. There, I said it.

This premise deserves it's own thread. If you mean he sucked as a teammate (on the court), I disagree. If you mean his skill set and propensities limited the growth/ceiling for the team, I agree in part.

This is a fair question. I say he sucked because he was playing PG and didn't make his team better. He had talent, and if he weren't a midget, he might have been a great SG. But he played no defense, hogged the ball, stagnated the offense, and took bad shots. They will be better without him.

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:But he played no defense, hogged the ball, stagnated the offense, and took bad shots. They will be better without him.

The strange thing is that he did play defense for his first two years...then inexplicibly stopped.

pick6pedro {l Wrote}:

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:But he played no defense, hogged the ball, stagnated the offense, and took bad shots. They will be better without him.

The strange thing is that he did play defense for his first two years...then inexplicibly stopped.

agreed.

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:

EagleNYC {l Wrote}:

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Rice fucking sucked. There, I said it.

This premise deserves it's own thread. If you mean he sucked as a teammate (on the court), I disagree. If you mean his skill set and propensities limited the growth/ceiling for the team, I agree in part.

This is a fair question. I say he sucked because he was playing PG and didn't make his team better. He had talent, and if he weren't a midget, he might have been a great SG. But he played no defense, hogged the ball, stagnated the offense, and took bad shots. They will be better without him.

It's one thing to say that (and I agree with that whole statement), but to say he sucked is a whole other can of worms.

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:

EagleNYC {l Wrote}:

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Rice fucking sucked. There, I said it.

This premise deserves it's own thread. If you mean he sucked as a teammate (on the court), I disagree. If you mean his skill set and propensities limited the growth/ceiling for the team, I agree in part.

This is a fair question. I say he sucked because he was playing PG and didn't make his team better. He had talent, and if he weren't a midget, he might have been a great SG. But he played no defense, hogged the ball, stagnated the offense, and took bad shots. They will be better without him.

To split a hair, I'll say that while he certainly made the team better his junior year (there were no other scoring options and he did have games where he passed the ball around quite a bit), he didn't make his teammates better. There was a lot of standing around and watching, and his dribbling exhibitions were largely to blame.

His senior year was far more frustrating, because he had three sophs coming into their own but didn't facilitate their growth.

Now to be a pain in the ass- given Rice's positives (scoring, three point shooting, FT shooting), was he mis-used a la Haden by Spaz/Tranq? I'll answer the question in the negative, but mostly because Rice needed another scoring ballhandler (such as Dudley) to keep him honest.