apbc12 {l Wrote}:GUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:The past two seasons, everyone that has seen this program has known that they were going to be one more star away from being a serious ACC contender over the next two seasons. Reporters are reporting that the team looks good, coaches are seeing these guys in practice, and the fans know that experienced teams do very well in college hoop. It should not have been a tough sell to one of the local guys (Vonleh is the biggest example) that they would be the player that could step right in and make BC one of the 2-3 favorites to win the ACC. Instead, they end up with Hicks, Owens and Magarity (decent players with potential but no instant impact guys) and nothing in this upcoming class as of yet.
HJS {l Wrote}:GodofBeasts94 {l Wrote}:To what extent do you think the unbalance of our classes affects the ability to close? If I were Uhl -- or anyone else -- I would look at the roster and say, "Where would my playing time come from Freshman year with everyone returning in 2014?" It will take a confidcent, patient and extremely good player to break into the current lineup. And let's be honest, Uhl is probably not such a sure thing that he could predict -- or be told -- that he would have 15-20 minutes a game right out of the gate. Guys understandably want to play immediately. And they want to be stars. It's hard to look at our roster -- and the Don's style of play -- and see the star opportunity (although Olivier certainly demonstrates that it can be done).
The question is, how does Donahue achieve re-balance the mess he inherited? Maybe with a couple of transfers in 2014 that can be ready to play in 2015 so he doesn't have another huge incoming class that creates a new 4-year cycle? It's not an easy situation. But I guess that's why he gets paid the big bucks.
Without question, a solid season this year with a trip to the tourney and continued success and accolades for Olivier and Ryan (and for Reggie for that matter!) will help. Great players will see this as a viable place to advance their careers.
Wouldn't hurt if Conte Forum developed a pulse..........watching the students leave the FSU and Army games in the 2nd half doesn't give me much hope that we've turned the corner on antipathy........
Seriously???
First... Don had 4 years to adjust the imbalance of his classes. He didn't address and actually made it worse. I personally believe that Don LIKES the imbalanced class. He did it at Cornell and he did it at BC. He takes a big class... suffers with them... and then hopes to pop in Year 4. In other words... blaming Skinner is like Barry still mentioning W.
Second... an athletic big has PLENTY of PT available. Right now, we are scheduling Drag and Owens to get a ton of run. Uhl or whoever has NEVER heard of those guys. So, they could easily believe they would be immediate starters.
Third... there is always excuses as to why you will lose a recruit (location, conference, PT, history, coach, success, bribery, AAU sleeze, connections). It is the effing job of the assistants (essentially their ONLY job) to convince a kid to overlook those problems of your school and to highlight those problems of another. Don has surrounded himself with assistants who have no experience recruiting at the high major level... and the results of the current 0-player recruiting class are self-evident.
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:HJS {l Wrote}:GodofBeasts94 {l Wrote}:To what extent do you think the unbalance of our classes affects the ability to close? If I were Uhl -- or anyone else -- I would look at the roster and say, "Where would my playing time come from Freshman year with everyone returning in 2014?" It will take a confidcent, patient and extremely good player to break into the current lineup. And let's be honest, Uhl is probably not such a sure thing that he could predict -- or be told -- that he would have 15-20 minutes a game right out of the gate. Guys understandably want to play immediately. And they want to be stars. It's hard to look at our roster -- and the Don's style of play -- and see the star opportunity (although Olivier certainly demonstrates that it can be done).
The question is, how does Donahue achieve re-balance the mess he inherited? Maybe with a couple of transfers in 2014 that can be ready to play in 2015 so he doesn't have another huge incoming class that creates a new 4-year cycle? It's not an easy situation. But I guess that's why he gets paid the big bucks.
Without question, a solid season this year with a trip to the tourney and continued success and accolades for Olivier and Ryan (and for Reggie for that matter!) will help. Great players will see this as a viable place to advance their careers.
Wouldn't hurt if Conte Forum developed a pulse..........watching the students leave the FSU and Army games in the 2nd half doesn't give me much hope that we've turned the corner on antipathy........
Seriously???
First... Don had 4 years to adjust the imbalance of his classes. He didn't address and actually made it worse. I personally believe that Don LIKES the imbalanced class. He did it at Cornell and he did it at BC. He takes a big class... suffers with them... and then hopes to pop in Year 4. In other words... blaming Skinner is like Barry still mentioning W.
Second... an athletic big has PLENTY of PT available. Right now, we are scheduling Drag and Owens to get a ton of run. Uhl or whoever has NEVER heard of those guys. So, they could easily believe they would be immediate starters.
Third... there is always excuses as to why you will lose a recruit (location, conference, PT, history, coach, success, bribery, AAU sleeze, connections). It is the effing job of the assistants (essentially their ONLY job) to convince a kid to overlook those problems of your school and to highlight those problems of another. Don has surrounded himself with assistants who have no experience recruiting at the high major level... and the results of the current 0-player recruiting class are self-evident.
Off yourself.
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:HJS {l Wrote}:GodofBeasts94 {l Wrote}:To what extent do you think the unbalance of our classes affects the ability to close? If I were Uhl -- or anyone else -- I would look at the roster and say, "Where would my playing time come from Freshman year with everyone returning in 2014?" It will take a confidcent, patient and extremely good player to break into the current lineup. And let's be honest, Uhl is probably not such a sure thing that he could predict -- or be told -- that he would have 15-20 minutes a game right out of the gate. Guys understandably want to play immediately. And they want to be stars. It's hard to look at our roster -- and the Don's style of play -- and see the star opportunity (although Olivier certainly demonstrates that it can be done).
The question is, how does Donahue achieve re-balance the mess he inherited? Maybe with a couple of transfers in 2014 that can be ready to play in 2015 so he doesn't have another huge incoming class that creates a new 4-year cycle? It's not an easy situation. But I guess that's why he gets paid the big bucks.
Without question, a solid season this year with a trip to the tourney and continued success and accolades for Olivier and Ryan (and for Reggie for that matter!) will help. Great players will see this as a viable place to advance their careers.
Wouldn't hurt if Conte Forum developed a pulse..........watching the students leave the FSU and Army games in the 2nd half doesn't give me much hope that we've turned the corner on antipathy........
Seriously???
First... Don had 4 years to adjust the imbalance of his classes. He didn't address and actually made it worse. I personally believe that Don LIKES the imbalanced class. He did it at Cornell and he did it at BC. He takes a big class... suffers with them... and then hopes to pop in Year 4. In other words... blaming Skinner is like Barry still mentioning W.
Second... an athletic big has PLENTY of PT available. Right now, we are scheduling Drag and Owens to get a ton of run. Uhl or whoever has NEVER heard of those guys. So, they could easily believe they would be immediate starters.
Third... there is always excuses as to why you will lose a recruit (location, conference, PT, history, coach, success, bribery, AAU sleeze, connections). It is the effing job of the assistants (essentially their ONLY job) to convince a kid to overlook those problems of your school and to highlight those problems of another. Don has surrounded himself with assistants who have no experience recruiting at the high major level... and the results of the current 0-player recruiting class are self-evident.
Off yourself.
HJS {l Wrote}:Uhl went to Iowa because 9903 hasn't been around here to prevent people from criticizing Don. His attention has been diverted to internet warrioring on EA now that posters even there have taken on a negative tone. The interwebz is very serious business. Recruits read these boards!
BCHerbert {l Wrote}:eagle9903 {l Wrote}:HJS {l Wrote}:GodofBeasts94 {l Wrote}:To what extent do you think the unbalance of our classes affects the ability to close? If I were Uhl -- or anyone else -- I would look at the roster and say, "Where would my playing time come from Freshman year with everyone returning in 2014?" It will take a confidcent, patient and extremely good player to break into the current lineup. And let's be honest, Uhl is probably not such a sure thing that he could predict -- or be told -- that he would have 15-20 minutes a game right out of the gate. Guys understandably want to play immediately. And they want to be stars. It's hard to look at our roster -- and the Don's style of play -- and see the star opportunity (although Olivier certainly demonstrates that it can be done).
The question is, how does Donahue achieve re-balance the mess he inherited? Maybe with a couple of transfers in 2014 that can be ready to play in 2015 so he doesn't have another huge incoming class that creates a new 4-year cycle? It's not an easy situation. But I guess that's why he gets paid the big bucks.
Without question, a solid season this year with a trip to the tourney and continued success and accolades for Olivier and Ryan (and for Reggie for that matter!) will help. Great players will see this as a viable place to advance their careers.
Wouldn't hurt if Conte Forum developed a pulse..........watching the students leave the FSU and Army games in the 2nd half doesn't give me much hope that we've turned the corner on antipathy........
Seriously???
First... Don had 4 years to adjust the imbalance of his classes. He didn't address and actually made it worse. I personally believe that Don LIKES the imbalanced class. He did it at Cornell and he did it at BC. He takes a big class... suffers with them... and then hopes to pop in Year 4. In other words... blaming Skinner is like Barry still mentioning W.
Second... an athletic big has PLENTY of PT available. Right now, we are scheduling Drag and Owens to get a ton of run. Uhl or whoever has NEVER heard of those guys. So, they could easily believe they would be immediate starters.
Third... there is always excuses as to why you will lose a recruit (location, conference, PT, history, coach, success, bribery, AAU sleeze, connections). It is the effing job of the assistants (essentially their ONLY job) to convince a kid to overlook those problems of your school and to highlight those problems of another. Don has surrounded himself with assistants who have no experience recruiting at the high major level... and the results of the current 0-player recruiting class are self-evident.
Off yourself.
Why would Uhl go to Iowa knowing that they have four returning forwards coming back during his frosh year? The Cap got beat by McCaffery, plain and simple. The kid is not going to be a major contributor his frosh year. He's 6-8 180lbs and is going to get squashed in the Big 10.
GodofBeasts94 {l Wrote}:Matt Cimino has slipped out of the EO conversation -- purportedly because he hasn't developed (which is probably bunk) and he's dropped on some of the boards. Yet by all accounts Cimino was really high on BC -- and a good shooting, fairly mobile 6'10 guy from Maine fits the system well.
If Matt ended up being the 2014 commit how would people feel? Too much of a same thing given that we have McGarity? Or would two shooting big-men combined with a healthy Hicks, an athletic Owens, and two 2015 commits to be named later create something to be excited about following the exit of the existing core?
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:GodofBeasts94 {l Wrote}:Matt Cimino has slipped out of the EO conversation -- purportedly because he hasn't developed (which is probably bunk) and he's dropped on some of the boards. Yet by all accounts Cimino was really high on BC -- and a good shooting, fairly mobile 6'10 guy from Maine fits the system well.
If Matt ended up being the 2014 commit how would people feel? Too much of a same thing given that we have McGarity? Or would two shooting big-men combined with a healthy Hicks, an athletic Owens, and two 2015 commits to be named later create something to be excited about following the exit of the existing core?
Unless we're just giving up on the notion of blocking shots and rebounding, I dont see where Cimino makes sense.
Johnson makes even less sense
GodofBeasts94 {l Wrote}:Matt Cimino has slipped out of the EO conversation -- purportedly because he hasn't developed (which is probably bunk) and he's dropped on some of the boards. Yet by all accounts Cimino was really high on BC -- and a good shooting, fairly mobile 6'10 guy from Maine fits the system well.
If Matt ended up being the 2014 commit how would people feel? Too much of a same thing given that we have McGarity? Or would two shooting big-men combined with a healthy Hicks, an athletic Owens, and two 2015 commits to be named later create something to be excited about following the exit of the existing core?
BCEaglesFan {l Wrote}:GodofBeasts94 {l Wrote}:Matt Cimino has slipped out of the EO conversation -- purportedly because he hasn't developed (which is probably bunk) and he's dropped on some of the boards. Yet by all accounts Cimino was really high on BC -- and a good shooting, fairly mobile 6'10 guy from Maine fits the system well.
If Matt ended up being the 2014 commit how would people feel? Too much of a same thing given that we have McGarity? Or would two shooting big-men combined with a healthy Hicks, an athletic Owens, and two 2015 commits to be named later create something to be excited about following the exit of the existing core?
It's not bunk. BC was not the only school to drop out for him. All 3 of the teams that offered him did.
HJS {l Wrote}:BCEaglesFan {l Wrote}:GodofBeasts94 {l Wrote}:Matt Cimino has slipped out of the EO conversation -- purportedly because he hasn't developed (which is probably bunk) and he's dropped on some of the boards. Yet by all accounts Cimino was really high on BC -- and a good shooting, fairly mobile 6'10 guy from Maine fits the system well.
If Matt ended up being the 2014 commit how would people feel? Too much of a same thing given that we have McGarity? Or would two shooting big-men combined with a healthy Hicks, an athletic Owens, and two 2015 commits to be named later create something to be excited about following the exit of the existing core?
It's not bunk. BC was not the only school to drop out for him. All 3 of the teams that offered him did.
They should pocket the offers out and see how these kids do during the season. Because, there is nothing in Justin Johnson's game that I think is so good that we couldn't find it in the Spring. I will also point out that we should be coming off a Tourney birth. Or, alternatively, we should at least have a new staff who knows how to recruit. Giving a mid-major, unathletic 3 one of our 1 or 2 ships this Fall is simply stupid and unacceptable.
RedBaron67 {l Wrote}:If Johnson decides he agrees with all of you and commits to Western Kentucky...
"It actually came down to Boston College and Western," Johnson said. "I was leaning towards Boston College at the end there, I really enjoyed my visit.
"But then I realized from a family standpoint, how many times would my family get to see me play there, vs. Western. They're both good basketball schools, but I'm a big family guy, and they'll get to see me play a lot more here."
joesim {l Wrote}:not mad in the least bit about this recruiting "loss"
31southst {l Wrote}:joesim {l Wrote}:not mad in the least bit about this recruiting "loss"
I'm not mad about the player but it speaks volume about our recruiting. Regardless of his talent, we went after him and lost. Although, to be fair, how can we be expected to recruit against a powerhouse like (Western) Kentucky?
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:31southst {l Wrote}:joesim {l Wrote}:not mad in the least bit about this recruiting "loss"
I'm not mad about the player but it speaks volume about our recruiting. Regardless of his talent, we went after him and lost. Although, to be fair, how can we be expected to recruit against a powerhouse like (Western) Kentucky?
Pretty much.
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:eagle9903 {l Wrote}:31southst {l Wrote}:joesim {l Wrote}:not mad in the least bit about this recruiting "loss"
I'm not mad about the player but it speaks volume about our recruiting. Regardless of his talent, we went after him and lost. Although, to be fair, how can we be expected to recruit against a powerhouse like (Western) Kentucky?
Pretty much.
so in conclusion, we lost out on this recruit because swofford is a bad negotiator and since our games are only offered on the computer his family could not watch. as a result, the kid chose to stay in kentucky (where his shirts are)
BCEaglesFan {l Wrote}:Justin Johnson to WKU. Johnson cites the reason was how long WKU was on him.
Cadillac90 {l Wrote}:BCEaglesFan {l Wrote}:Justin Johnson to WKU. Johnson cites the reason was how long WKU was on him.
Fucking Skinner!!!!!!!
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