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Re: 2023 BC Football

Postby Logitano on Sun Sep 10, 2023 8:33 am

Remember when our annual super bowl win was Notre Dame?

Do not get me wrong I prefer the bragging rights against Holy Cross.

Fordham has to be licking its chops for the 2025 season opener. :ace
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Re: 2023 BC Football after 2 games

Postby eepstein0 on Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:09 am

claver2010 {l Wrote}:
DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:Defense:
Arnold and DePalma are very, very slow. Blackwell has some speed but makes up for it with lack of size. They really need Steele. Anyone know what is wrong with him? He looks fine (and much bigger). He is a little old for mono.
I actually like the DBs other than Pupel. He is very noticeably slower (live) than anyone else on the field. Really surprised how little Nelson is playing as I thought he looked good in the Spring Game.
Not really sure what to say about the DL except that it has been disappointing.

Offense:
The OL has been OK against inferior Ds. Mahogany had a terrible game against NIU.
Tackas killed us in the NIU game game. He didn't have a drop today. Thought the TEs would be a bigger part of the O this year. There have been very little 2 TE sets.
The RBs are mediocre at best. Gone are the days of AJD, Williams, Green, Cloud...
If we had good WRs, they would have stood out against the last two opponents. They didn't.
Moorehead was so bad last week. TC is athletic but never looks off his first target. He is also hard to like.


depalma is rocking the dad bod already & arnold put on way too much muscle and can't move.

ezeraku has been very silent considering opponents and the rumored offers he received this offseason


Our entire LB crew is terrible and has been for years. Could we not find guys that are fast and normal sized? The current crop is either gigantic and slow or tiny and fast
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Re: 2023 BC Football

Postby durkcal on Wed Sep 13, 2023 1:36 pm

We don't have a good LB or TE on the roster. We actually should consider going with no TE sets lol. The "we need Steele" quote is laughable. He has been soft as charmin for two years. I'm not betting on that changing. The new head coach will overhaul LB and TE. The idea of converting a safety to LB sounds nice, but you have to develop guys that get to the ball and make solid tackles. Aside from DePalma, a high school LB, no one does that. Duggan/Lukabu have failed miserably on that. The joke is that Hafley wants to play 5 DBs in his base defense. But we are rarely in that defense. Why? Because we can't stop the run, even with 3 LB's on the field. Arnold, Blackwell, Steele, etc.. are not slow. They get blocked. They are incapable of shedding a block. When Steele gets to the ball, he's likely to have it broken, or need help to finish the tackle.

Can't be too hard on the RBs when we were playing our 3rd string guy. It is a deep RB room. But Garwo and Broome are best.

Ezeiruaku was very silent in the Holy Cross game. Not a good sign for the rest of the way.
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Re: 2023 BC Football

Postby innocentbystander on Wed Sep 13, 2023 5:52 pm

durkcal {l Wrote}:Because we can't stop the run, even with 3 LB's on the field. Arnold, Blackwell, Steele, etc.. are not slow. They get blocked. They are incapable of shedding a block. When Steele gets to the ball, he's likely to have it broken, or need help to finish the tackle.


That is on the defensive line. They are not doing their job. Their job is to establish the line of scrimmage one yard into the backfield THUS tying up ALL the offensive linemen in piles. This frees up linebackers to make the tackle at the line of scrimmage, negating the opponent's running game. Linebackers are being blocked because defensive linemen are blown completely off the line.
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Re: 2023 BC Football

Postby eepstein0 on Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:59 am

innocentbystander {l Wrote}:
durkcal {l Wrote}:Because we can't stop the run, even with 3 LB's on the field. Arnold, Blackwell, Steele, etc.. are not slow. They get blocked. They are incapable of shedding a block. When Steele gets to the ball, he's likely to have it broken, or need help to finish the tackle.


That is on the defensive line. They are not doing their job. Their job is to establish the line of scrimmage one yard into the backfield THUS tying up ALL the offensive linemen in piles. This frees up linebackers to make the tackle at the line of scrimmage, negating the opponent's running game. Linebackers are being blocked because defensive linemen are blown completely off the line.


IRREGARDLESS the LBs are horrible and have been for the last 4 years. Either huge hulking slow guys or safeties trying to play LB.
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Re: 2023 BC Football

Postby innocentbystander on Thu Sep 14, 2023 11:57 pm

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
innocentbystander {l Wrote}:
durkcal {l Wrote}:Because we can't stop the run, even with 3 LB's on the field. Arnold, Blackwell, Steele, etc.. are not slow. They get blocked. They are incapable of shedding a block. When Steele gets to the ball, he's likely to have it broken, or need help to finish the tackle.


That is on the defensive line. They are not doing their job. Their job is to establish the line of scrimmage one yard into the backfield THUS tying up ALL the offensive linemen in piles. This frees up linebackers to make the tackle at the line of scrimmage, negating the opponent's running game. Linebackers are being blocked because defensive linemen are blown completely off the line.


IRREGARDLESS the LBs are horrible and have been for the last 4 years. Either huge hulking slow guys or safeties trying to play LB.


true. but that is because the team sucks.
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Re: 2023 BC Football

Postby DomingoOrtiz on Tue Sep 26, 2023 12:31 pm

Alex Washington has entered The Portal. Hasn't played much since Week1.
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Re: 2023 BC Football

Postby DomingoOrtiz on Sun Oct 29, 2023 6:43 pm

Too soon to book our trip to Charlotte?

Going into this 4 ACC game stretch, there is nothing much we can do about our dreadful run D but we really need to get healthy on O. Garwo wearing a "serious rig on his leg" means he will not be back any time soon.

Garwo, O'Keefe, Reynolds, Takacs, Lillis, Terry, Tongrongou, Steele, Cheek, Faoa, Farris, Jones, Clemons (and probably others) were out Saturday and Shitta left with an upperbody injury.
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Re: 2023 BC Football

Postby claver2010 on Sun Oct 29, 2023 7:16 pm

true sicko determined this is the path:

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Re: 2023 BC Football

Postby eepstein0 on Sun Oct 29, 2023 7:32 pm

claver2010 {l Wrote}:true sicko determined this is the path:

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Some serious 3D chess there.
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Re: 2023 BC Football

Postby twballgame9 on Sun Oct 29, 2023 7:42 pm

It's better than Addazio and Spaziani. It's not good but it's fun and it's not Italian.
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Re: 2023 BC Football

Postby innocentbystander on Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:50 am

DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:Too soon to book our trip to Charlotte?


The two ACC teams that BC lost to, are going to Charlotte.
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Re: 2023 BC Football

Postby MF73-Eleazar on Mon Oct 30, 2023 6:46 pm

You what?
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Re: 2023 BC Football

Postby DomingoOrtiz on Fri Nov 03, 2023 10:01 pm

Hard too image how we can win out without our 2 3 RBs and an injured QB
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Re: 2023 BC Football

Postby twballgame9 on Fri Nov 03, 2023 10:04 pm

DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:Hard too image how we can win out without our tow 3 RBs and an injured QB


It's also hard to imagine how BC fans could suck worse than this, but my imagination is wild!
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Re: 2023 BC Football

Postby hansen on Fri Nov 03, 2023 10:07 pm

Great day to be an eagle
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Re: 2023 BC Football

Postby twballgame9 on Fri Nov 03, 2023 10:10 pm

hansen {l Wrote}:Great day to be an eagle


Assuming you aren't a negative asshole.
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Re: 2023 BC Football

Postby hansen on Fri Nov 03, 2023 10:21 pm

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
hansen {l Wrote}:Great day to be an eagle


Assuming you aren't a negative asshole.


Rumor is Hafley just said in the post-game press conference in regard to the ACC championship game “if we keep doing what we are doing there is a path and the path is there”. Path has been a codeword amongst BC fans the past few weeks about BC making the ACC title game.
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Re: 2023 BC Football

Postby hansen on Fri Nov 03, 2023 10:22 pm

hansen {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
hansen {l Wrote}:Great day to be an eagle


Assuming you aren't a negative asshole.


Rumor is Hafley just said in the post-game press conference in regard to the ACC championship game “if we keep doing what we are doing there is a path and the path is there”. Path has been a codeword amongst BC fans the past few weeks about BC making the ACC title game.


Followed this up with “The fact that the path is still alive in November, we can’t wait to get back home.”

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Re: 2023 BC Football

Postby twballgame9 on Fri Nov 03, 2023 10:27 pm

Path is such an uncommon word, too. Hansen, do better.
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Re: 2023 BC Football

Postby claver2010 on Sat Nov 04, 2023 6:53 am

go :hokie

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Re: 2023 BC Football

Postby claver2010 on Sun Nov 05, 2023 2:46 pm

a new path:
-Louisville loses to Miami or Virginia

-UNC wins out

-BC wins out

The ACC Championship game would be between the Florida State Seminoles and the Boston College Eagles.
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Re: 2023 BC Football

Postby innocentbystander on Sun Nov 05, 2023 4:08 pm

claver2010 {l Wrote}:a new path:
-Louisville loses to Miami or Virginia

-UNC wins out

-BC wins out

The ACC Championship game would be between the Florida State Seminoles and the Boston College Eagles.


Mmmm, no I don't think so. Louisville's last game of the season is against Kentucky, not UNC.

Louisville only has one loss in conference, just one. And Louisville already beat BC. So Louisville (a team that just smoked VPI by 31 points) wins the head-to-head decision vs BC for the ACC Championship slot vs F$U.

BC must run the table AND Louisville must lose to BOTH Miami AND UVa. That is... not going to happen. ACC championship will be Louisville vs F$U. I said that last week, nothing has changed.
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Re: 2023 BC Football

Postby claver2010 on Sun Nov 05, 2023 6:23 pm

In a 3 way tie, head to head is not the tiebreaker

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Re: 2023 BC Football

Postby innocentbystander on Sun Nov 05, 2023 6:44 pm

claver2010 {l Wrote}:In a 3 way tie, head to head is not the tiebreaker

Box that logic


Three teams including UNC? I can't box it. If there are tied records for TOP ACC regular season play for three schools and head-to-head does not break the tie for ACC Championship play (ie, BC is NOT instantly booted from consideration because they lost to Louisville but didn't play UNC), then the ACC retarded and I don't blame FSU for wanting out. Let me check what it is.

Okay here it is

http://theacc.com/documents/2023/5/17/ACC_FOOTBALL_TIEBREAKER_POLICY.pdf

ACC {l Wrote}:Three (or More) Team Tie
Three team (or more) tiebreaker procedure will first be used to identify one Championship Game
representative. Once that team is determined, the tiebreaker procedures restart for the remaining
tied teams.
1. Combined head-to-head win-percentage among the tied teams if all tied teams are common
opponents.
2. If all the tied teams are not common opponents, the tied team that defeated each of the other
tied teams.
3. Win-percentage versus all common opponents.
4. Win-percentage versus common opponents based upon their order of finish (overall
conference win-percentage, with ties broken) and proceeding through other common
opponents based upon their order of finish.
5. Combined win-percentage of conference opponents.
6. The tied team with the highest ranking by the Team Rating Score metric provided by
SportSource Analytics following the conclusion of regular season games.
7. The representative shall be chosen by a draw as administered by the Commissioner or
Commissioner’s designee.


Okay so, head to head does not apply because UNC never plays Louisville. So Louisville spanking BC is meaningless because they didn't play the Tar Heels. First two tie breakers do not apply. So we drop to tie breaker 3. Who are the common opponents for BC, Louisville, and UNC?

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UVa
Pitt
Miami

BC would be the only school to defeat all 4. Okay, well.... shit. That is serious rules lawyering but whatever. That is a still a whole lot to happen. Anyway, I stand corrected. Claver is right and the ACC is retarded.
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Re: 2023 BC Football

Postby hansen on Tue Nov 07, 2023 4:52 pm

claver2010 {l Wrote}:In a 3 way tie, head to head is not the tiebreaker

Box that logic


It’s amazing someone so consistently wrong still continually acts like a know it all.

back to thinking IB is a ali-ass
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Re: 2023 BC Football

Postby twballgame9 on Tue Nov 07, 2023 8:22 pm

Ask IB who should go if UNC the Ville and BC were tied, the Ville still blew out BC, UNC had blown out the Ville and BC had blown out UNC.

You guys should know better than to engage with this myopic idiot.
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Re: 2023 BC Football

Postby claver2010 on Sun Nov 12, 2023 11:51 am

@BCgenius
Per three people close to the program, I am told that Elijah Jones is NOT injured. But he is out for the year. I am guessing it is disciplinary, but do not know that for a fact.
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not great!

with hindsight hafley's quote backs up it's not injury:

'elijah is probably out for the season and that's all i have on that right now'
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Re: 2023 BC Football

Postby eepstein0 on Sun Nov 12, 2023 5:38 pm

claver2010 {l Wrote}:
@BCgenius
Per three people close to the program, I am told that Elijah Jones is NOT injured. But he is out for the year. I am guessing it is disciplinary, but do not know that for a fact.
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not great!

with hindsight hafley's quote backs up it's not injury:

'elijah is probably out for the season and that's all i have on that right now'


This for sure had something to do with the gutless display of football BC put out there yesterday.

Jones tried to plant the flag on the Cuse 50 last week, not sure if it’s related or not.

This team has had a culture issue for a while. You can sweep all the off field stuff under the rug, but it’s still there.
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Re: 2023 BC Football

Postby twballgame9 on Sun Nov 12, 2023 8:03 pm

If he is suspended for having balls, he should loan them to his coach. Good for him.
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