Official Gameday Thread - BC at Clemson -10.2.21

[innocentbystander]

He legit had three open WR for TD during the game and couldn’t put any of those passes within five yards. If he’s 1-3 on those they win. If your point is: he’s bad, what did you expect? The response is: a mediocre to poor performance. Instead we got “historically bad.” And before you point to that last drive, Clemson was incredibly playing a soft zone allowing everything between 10 and 15 yards (his accuracy limit) and he STILL was lucky not to throw an INT on the pass before the humiliating fumble.

I am still absolutely heart broken. I haven't felt this bad after a loss (that should not be a loss) since the 2006 game vs NC State.

This is not a WTF loss, but, it sure as hell feels like it.

[innocentbystander]

I won my Wynn bet. BFD. We all won our bets. And none of us feel good about it.

I'd give it all back in a second to give Grossel one more play in that end zone.

[twballgame9]

This should be a WTF loss

[innocentbystander]

This should be a WTF loss

</unfoe>

Yeah Teddy. It should be. It really feels like a WTF loss. That is why it should be, you are right. But its not. BC opened as a 16 point underdog playing on the road with a backup QB undeserving of any scholarships. No, losing this game was not a WTF. It just isn't, certainly not with that kind of game opening criteria. Instead, it would have been an incredible win and just a heart breaking loss.

But it sure feels like a WTF loss. It feels like it because BC was so damn close to winning this game and none of us have respect for this Clemson team. We are feeling like the game was stolen from us. And really it wasn't, but it feels like it. Clemson out played BC, both offensively and defensively. Clemson didn't have all those penalties and all those turnovers. Had Clemson lost, then that would have been a WTF for them.

[HJS]

Been a while since BC has lost to that shitty of a team.

It was really on,y 5 games ago. Think of a team so historically shitty that Dennis Gross-el could pass for 520 yards… well, we lost to them.

[ATLeagle]

Grosel getting a lot of shit and rightly so with the game he played but let’s not Lindstrom totally off the hook.
Several really bad snaps tonight including one that cost us the game.

IT HIT HIM. It wasn’t over his head or a ground ball.

We all know what we are getting with Grosel. He’s a walk-on, career backup QB so expectations are low. Lindstrom is supposed to be a candidate for top awards. He skips one ball early on to kill one drive and was involved on the last play of the game.

Grosel said in the postgame he took his eye off the snap to look at the game clock.

[twballgame9]

Grosel getting a lot of shit and rightly so with the game he played but let’s not Lindstrom totally off the hook.
Several really bad snaps tonight including one that cost us the game.

IT HIT HIM. It wasn’t over his head or a ground ball.

We all know what we are getting with Grosel. He’s a walk-on, career backup QB so expectations are low. Lindstrom is supposed to be a candidate for top awards. He skips one ball early on to kill one drive and was involved on the last play of the game.

Grosel said in the postgame he took his eye off the snap to look at the game clock.

Misfit snap! He belongs

[HJS]

If Grosel sees another snap this year that is entirely on Hafley. The cupboard may be empty, but if you are a whiz kid coach , you have to cobble something together that is better than the living abortion of a performance that Grosel just birthed.

This. If Grosel is QB there is zero chance I am going COVID for that shit.

I’m here. This shit is on the coaching staff. Jurk was healthy for like 2 games last year. He takes big hits. Not having a contingency plan is horse crap. But, we currently have a walk-on (Menard) backing up a walk-on (Grosel). Name another program anywhere at any level whose #1 and #2 are both fucking walk-ons.

We see true frosh start all throughout college. Moorehead is like 21 years old and has been on campus since January. The staff has raved about his talent. How is he not under center?

[innocentbystander]

If Grosel sees another snap this year that is entirely on Hafley. The cupboard may be empty, but if you are a whiz kid coach , you have to cobble something together that is better than the living abortion of a performance that Grosel just birthed.

This. If Grosel is QB there is zero chance I am going COVID for that shit.

I’m here. This shit is on the coaching staff. Jurk was healthy for like 2 games last year. He takes big hits. Not having a contingency plan is horse crap. But, we currently have a walk-on (Menard) backing up a walk-on (Grosel). Name another program anywhere at any level whose #1 and #2 are both fucking walk-ons.

We see true frosh start all throughout college. Moorehead is like 21 years old and has been on campus since January. The staff has raved about his talent. How is he not under center?

Well maybe Moorehead sucks worse than Grosel?

[HJS]

Well maybe Moorehead sucks worse than Grosel?

I think we’ve already established that you are the last person who should be talking about the comparative effectiveness of others sucking.

[tallsy]

Sorry. I am saving outrage until the inevitable loss to FSU, Cuse, or GT.

[twballgame9]

Sorry. I am saving outrage until the inevitable loss to FSU, Cuse, or GT.

Why be outraged over those games?

Last night continues to be infuriating. What a wasted opportunity. I realize Clemson is bad, but still.

[hansen]

Sorry. I am saving outrage until the inevitable loss to FSU, Cuse, or GT.

Why be outraged over those games?

Last night continues to be infuriating. What a wasted opportunity. I realize Clemson is bad, but still.

this

[claver2010]

Well maybe Moorehead sucks worse than Grosel?

I think we’ve already established that you are the last person who should be talking about the comparative effectiveness of others sucking.

Damn

[hansen]

[HJS]

The bye week comes at the perfect time. The staff has 2 weeks to get Moorhead ready. If our QB recruiting is so epically bad that we literally don’t have a Patriot League-level player on the roster, Jacob Zeno entered the portal this week and is immediately available to play.

[Eagle1999]

Grosel getting a lot of shit and rightly so with the game he played but let’s not Lindstrom totally off the hook.
Several really bad snaps tonight including one that cost us the game.

IT HIT HIM. It wasn’t over his head or a ground ball.

We all know what we are getting with Grosel. He’s a walk-on, career backup QB so expectations are low. Lindstrom is supposed to be a candidate for top awards. He skips one ball early on to kill one drive and was involved on the last play of the game.

Grosel said in the postgame he took his eye off the snap to look at the game clock.

If this is the case the kid should turn in his uniform. What the fuck does the play clock matter? There is nothing more important than the football. Who gives a shit about another 5 yard penalty? You are risking possession for 5 fucking yards at this point in the game? A 5 yard penalty would almost help you there if you had a DI QB who could complete a pass over 10 yards. It’s not like we’re worried about getting pushed out of field goal range. We all got to settle in understand Hafley will never beat Clemson. Never. This Clemson team sucked. They were awful. We were just worse. Our kids “didn’t flinch”. But our fucking QB decided to blink when the snap was coming. Just unreal.

[HJS]

Matt Rueve had offers from half of the MAC. Most backup QBs currently on a MAC roster win that game.

Here’s the thing. Grosel is a HS baseball player who walked onto the BC FB team. It’s not his fault Sam Johnson, Matt Valecce and Matt MacDonald were awful. He’s far exceeded his abilities. However, as a 6th year player, if he can’t manage a game and hit open players, there really isn’t a reason to continue developing him. He isn’t owed anything. Cut your losses and move the fuck on.

[hansen]

Matt Rueve had offers from half of the MAC. Most backup QBs currently on a MAC roster win that game.

Here’s the thing. Grosel is a HS baseball player who walked onto the BC FB team. It’s not his fault Sam Johnson, Matt Valecce and Matt MacDonald were awful. He’s far exceeded his abilities. However, as a 6th year player, if he can’t manage a game and hit open players, there really isn’t a reason to continue developing him. He isn’t owed anything. Cut your losses and move the fuck on.

With only 1 loss so far and still a good shot at the Atlantic title (beat nc state at home, beat wake at home, hope for a Clemson loss which is probably because they suck), I think it’s too early to pull the plug on him especially when you know Phil is the guy next year when healthy. ACC is so wide open this year. Coaching staff needs to find plays that he can execute and call them. He clearly can’t throw a deep ball accurately but he made some good throws last night at times. Just needs to cut down on the miscues and he would be serviceable. With the talent around him, that’s all he needs to do.

Last night was extremely painful but there’s still a lot to play for despite the extreme overreaction in this thread.

[Eagle1999]

Matt Rueve had offers from half of the MAC. Most backup QBs currently on a MAC roster win that game.

Here’s the thing. Grosel is a HS baseball player who walked onto the BC FB team. It’s not his fault Sam Johnson, Matt Valecce and Matt MacDonald were awful. He’s far exceeded his abilities. However, as a 6th year player, if he can’t manage a game and hit open players, there really isn’t a reason to continue developing him. He isn’t owed anything. Cut your losses and move the fuck on.

With only 1 loss so far and still a good shot at the Atlantic title (beat nc state at home, beat wake at home, hope for a Clemson loss which is probably because they suck), I think it’s too early to pull the plug on him especially when you know Phil is the guy next year when healthy. ACC is so wide open this year. Coaching staff needs to find plays that he can execute and call them. He clearly can’t throw a deep ball accurately but he made some good throws last night at times. Just needs to cut down on the miscues and he would be serviceable. With the talent around him, that’s all he needs to do.

Last night was extremely painful but there’s still a lot to play for despite the extreme overreaction in this thread.

He literally took his eye off the ball at the most crucial point in the game which resulted in his 3rd turnover. All of the games we have left are winnable. His ability (or lack thereof) makes them all lose-able.

[hansen]

Matt Rueve had offers from half of the MAC. Most backup QBs currently on a MAC roster win that game.

Here’s the thing. Grosel is a HS baseball player who walked onto the BC FB team. It’s not his fault Sam Johnson, Matt Valecce and Matt MacDonald were awful. He’s far exceeded his abilities. However, as a 6th year player, if he can’t manage a game and hit open players, there really isn’t a reason to continue developing him. He isn’t owed anything. Cut your losses and move the fuck on.

With only 1 loss so far and still a good shot at the Atlantic title (beat nc state at home, beat wake at home, hope for a Clemson loss which is probably because they suck), I think it’s too early to pull the plug on him especially when you know Phil is the guy next year when healthy. ACC is so wide open this year. Coaching staff needs to find plays that he can execute and call them. He clearly can’t throw a deep ball accurately but he made some good throws last night at times. Just needs to cut down on the miscues and he would be serviceable. With the talent around him, that’s all he needs to do.

Last night was extremely painful but there’s still a lot to play for despite the extreme overreaction in this thread.

He literally took his eye off the ball at the most crucial point in the game which resulted in his 3rd turnover. All of the games we have left are winnable. His ability (or lack thereof) makes them all lose-able.

he made a split-second mistake; these things happen. the more aggregious part in my mind was not jumping on the football and instead trying to make a play. that was the unforgivable part. it's like football 101. had he done that, we still have another crack at winning the game.

that said, Not sure throwing a true freshman QB out there for our 2nd biggest game of the year (and now an absolute must win) is a winning strategy.

[HJS]

Matt Rueve had offers from half of the MAC. Most backup QBs currently on a MAC roster win that game.

Here’s the thing. Grosel is a HS baseball player who walked onto the BC FB team. It’s not his fault Sam Johnson, Matt Valecce and Matt MacDonald were awful. He’s far exceeded his abilities. However, as a 6th year player, if he can’t manage a game and hit open players, there really isn’t a reason to continue developing him. He isn’t owed anything. Cut your losses and move the fuck on.

With only 1 loss so far and still a good shot at the Atlantic title (beat nc state at home, beat wake at home, hope for a Clemson loss which is probably because they suck), I think it’s too early to pull the plug on him especially when you know Phil is the guy next year when healthy. ACC is so wide open this year. Coaching staff needs to find plays that he can execute and call them. He clearly can’t throw a deep ball accurately but he made some good throws last night at times. Just needs to cut down on the miscues and he would be serviceable. With the talent around him, that’s all he needs to do.

Last night was extremely painful but there’s still a lot to play for despite the extreme overreaction in this thread.

He literally took his eye off the ball at the most crucial point in the game which resulted in his 3rd turnover. All of the games we have left are winnable. His ability (or lack thereof) makes them all lose-able.

he made a split-second mistake; these things happen. the more aggregious part in my mind was not jumping on the football and instead trying to make a play. that was the unforgivable part. it's like football 101. had he done that, we still have another crack at winning the game.

that said, Not sure throwing a true freshman QB out there for our 2nd biggest game of the year (and now an absolute must win) is a winning strategy.

How the fuck did IB beat him?

[hansen]

Matt Rueve had offers from half of the MAC. Most backup QBs currently on a MAC roster win that game.

Here’s the thing. Grosel is a HS baseball player who walked onto the BC FB team. It’s not his fault Sam Johnson, Matt Valecce and Matt MacDonald were awful. He’s far exceeded his abilities. However, as a 6th year player, if he can’t manage a game and hit open players, there really isn’t a reason to continue developing him. He isn’t owed anything. Cut your losses and move the fuck on.

With only 1 loss so far and still a good shot at the Atlantic title (beat nc state at home, beat wake at home, hope for a Clemson loss which is probably because they suck), I think it’s too early to pull the plug on him especially when you know Phil is the guy next year when healthy. ACC is so wide open this year. Coaching staff needs to find plays that he can execute and call them. He clearly can’t throw a deep ball accurately but he made some good throws last night at times. Just needs to cut down on the miscues and he would be serviceable. With the talent around him, that’s all he needs to do.

Last night was extremely painful but there’s still a lot to play for despite the extreme overreaction in this thread.

He literally took his eye off the ball at the most crucial point in the game which resulted in his 3rd turnover. All of the games we have left are winnable. His ability (or lack thereof) makes them all lose-able.

he made a split-second mistake; these things happen. the more aggregious part in my mind was not jumping on the football and instead trying to make a play. that was the unforgivable part. it's like football 101. had he done that, we still have another crack at winning the game.

that said, Not sure throwing a true freshman QB out there for our 2nd biggest game of the year (and now an absolute must win) is a winning strategy.

How the fuck did IB beat him?

You should cry some more about it.

[eagle33]

that was a four touchdown win last night with jurk at the controls. we have 2 weeks to get ready for the must win rcc game. should haf spend those two weeks trying to coach up grosel or spend them coaching up a replacement.

[Dick Rosenthal]

Matt Rueve had offers from half of the MAC. Most backup QBs currently on a MAC roster win that game.

Here’s the thing. Grosel is a HS baseball player who walked onto the BC FB team. It’s not his fault Sam Johnson, Matt Valecce and Matt MacDonald were awful. He’s far exceeded his abilities. However, as a 6th year player, if he can’t manage a game and hit open players, there really isn’t a reason to continue developing him. He isn’t owed anything. Cut your losses and move the fuck on.

With only 1 loss so far and still a good shot at the Atlantic title (beat nc state at home, beat wake at home, hope for a Clemson loss which is probably because they suck), I think it’s too early to pull the plug on him especially when you know Phil is the guy next year when healthy. ACC is so wide open this year. Coaching staff needs to find plays that he can execute and call them. He clearly can’t throw a deep ball accurately but he made some good throws last night at times. Just needs to cut down on the miscues and he would be serviceable. With the talent around him, that’s all he needs to do.

Last night was extremely painful but there’s still a lot to play for despite the extreme overreaction in this thread.

For everyone paying attention at home, Hansen is the asshole who also thinks Biden is doing a good job.

[Dick Rosenthal]

Matt Rueve had offers from half of the MAC. Most backup QBs currently on a MAC roster win that game.

Here’s the thing. Grosel is a HS baseball player who walked onto the BC FB team. It’s not his fault Sam Johnson, Matt Valecce and Matt MacDonald were awful. He’s far exceeded his abilities. However, as a 6th year player, if he can’t manage a game and hit open players, there really isn’t a reason to continue developing him. He isn’t owed anything. Cut your losses and move the fuck on.

With only 1 loss so far and still a good shot at the Atlantic title (beat nc state at home, beat wake at home, hope for a Clemson loss which is probably because they suck), I think it’s too early to pull the plug on him especially when you know Phil is the guy next year when healthy. ACC is so wide open this year. Coaching staff needs to find plays that he can execute and call them. He clearly can’t throw a deep ball accurately but he made some good throws last night at times. Just needs to cut down on the miscues and he would be serviceable. With the talent around him, that’s all he needs to do.

Last night was extremely painful but there’s still a lot to play for despite the extreme overreaction in this thread.

He literally took his eye off the ball at the most crucial point in the game which resulted in his 3rd turnover. All of the games we have left are winnable. His ability (or lack thereof) makes them all lose-able.

he made a split-second mistake; these things happen. the more aggregious part in my mind was not jumping on the football and instead trying to make a play. that was the unforgivable part. it's like football 101. had he done that, we still have another crack at winning the game.

that said, Not sure throwing a true freshman QB out there for our 2nd biggest game of the year (and now an absolute must win) is a winning strategy.

How the fuck did IB beat him?

You should cry some more about it.

And you should try not to be a fucking retard.

[DuchesneEast]

Last night still hurts.

[DuchesneEast]

Enjoy. Zero chance I attend another game.

I'll join you TWB. There's always next year.

This year was wide open for us.

[claver2010]

Last night still hurts.

yeah still incredibly frustrating

[HJS]

should haf spend those two weeks trying to coach up grosel or spend them coaching up a replacement.

Grosel is almost 30. Last night’s performance is the culmination of 6 years of “coaching up”. That right there was the best he can do. It was his Sistine Chapel. If what you saw last night is enough to win against RCC (Wake, FSU, Cuse and GT), then continue prepping with Grosel under center. Otherwise, your time is better spent building for the future with the hope that whatever downside comes from inexperience is offset with actual ability.