by innocentbystander on Thu Dec 19, 2019 10:45 am
hawaiirob {l Wrote}:I am so pumped on this hire that I've been doing everything better. I don't know how else to put it.
I watched It's a Wonderful Life with my family and I told them I felt like George Bailey when he re-entered his house at the end. I was part emotional from the movie and part from the sominex-induced malaise being lifted from BC football. I might need my head examined but I don't give a shit.
by claver2010 on Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:40 am
Since the announcement, we've sold a couple hundred season tickets," Jarmond said. "We've had the fastest renewal of season tickets in a two-day period that we've had. The excitement is translating into season tickets and donations.
by RegalBCeagle on Sun Dec 22, 2019 12:02 pm
by Dick Rosenthal on Sun Dec 22, 2019 12:13 pm
by BostonCollege1 on Sun Dec 22, 2019 12:14 pm
RegalBCeagle {l Wrote}:I was talking to a friend of mine - a local HS FB Coach and I asked what he thought of the Hafley hire. He mentioned that he had heard that Hafley was BC's 3rd choice, and that 2 other coaches were offered the job and turned it down. I haven't really seen anything suggesting this was the case, except for this snippet from footballscoop.com - although it doesn't actually say others were offered the job:
Navy’s Ken Niumatalolo was a strong candidate for the position, but as evidenced by his dalliances with BYU and Arizona, he’s proven famously difficult to pull out of Annapolis. Once Niumatalolo and another candidate removed themselves from the process, BC quickly moved to Hafley.
Anyone hear anything more? Not that it matters at this point, but it would make for some interesting analysis of the who and why.
by Logitano on Sun Dec 22, 2019 1:08 pm
RegalBCeagle {l Wrote}:I was talking to a friend of mine - a local HS FB Coach and I asked what he thought of the Hafley hire. He mentioned that he had heard that Hafley was BC's 3rd choice, and that 2 other coaches were offered the job and turned it down. I haven't really seen anything suggesting this was the case, except for this snippet from footballscoop.com - although it doesn't actually say others were offered the job:
Navy’s Ken Niumatalolo was a strong candidate for the position, but as evidenced by his dalliances with BYU and Arizona, he’s proven famously difficult to pull out of Annapolis. Once Niumatalolo and another candidate removed themselves from the process, BC quickly moved to Hafley.
Anyone hear anything more? Not that it matters at this point, but it would make for some interesting analysis of the who and why.
by MF73-Eleazar on Sun Dec 22, 2019 1:52 pm
by PhillyandBCEagles on Sun Dec 22, 2019 2:20 pm
MF73-Eleazar {l Wrote}:I wonder which NFL HC/Assts showed interest.
by 2001Eagle on Sun Dec 22, 2019 2:24 pm
Logitano {l Wrote}:RegalBCeagle {l Wrote}:I was talking to a friend of mine - a local HS FB Coach and I asked what he thought of the Hafley hire. He mentioned that he had heard that Hafley was BC's 3rd choice, and that 2 other coaches were offered the job and turned it down. I haven't really seen anything suggesting this was the case, except for this snippet from footballscoop.com - although it doesn't actually say others were offered the job:
Navy’s Ken Niumatalolo was a strong candidate for the position, but as evidenced by his dalliances with BYU and Arizona, he’s proven famously difficult to pull out of Annapolis. Once Niumatalolo and another candidate removed themselves from the process, BC quickly moved to Hafley.
Anyone hear anything more? Not that it matters at this point, but it would make for some interesting analysis of the who and why.
BC offering two other coaches and being turned down is an outright lie. Sounds like people we are recruiting against putting out misinformation.
Niumatalolo was not ever a strong candidate for the job.
Those that know me will back up that I told them Hafley was our new coach as early as 12/7 and I never wavered.
Did BC meet other people? Yes. Did anyone else get put up for the job? No.
If anything the acceptance of this rumor by a local coach shows how much the locals love to shit on BC.
by hansen on Sun Dec 22, 2019 3:13 pm
by Tom Dooder on Sun Dec 22, 2019 3:44 pm
hansen {l Wrote}:There’s no way the Jeff Hafley loses less games than Steve Addazio so that fact combined with the added donations and season tickets sold have made this a good decision. The hire has generated enthusiasm in the program not seen since 2007.
by Corporal Funishment on Sun Dec 22, 2019 4:19 pm
Tom Dooder {l Wrote}:hansen {l Wrote}:There’s no way the Jeff Hafley loses less games than Steve Addazio so that fact combined with the added donations and season tickets sold have made this a good decision. The hire has generated enthusiasm in the program not seen since 2007.
*fewer
and shouldn’t it read more?
by hansen on Sun Dec 22, 2019 4:35 pm
Corporal Funishment {l Wrote}:Tom Dooder {l Wrote}:hansen {l Wrote}:There’s no way the Jeff Hafley loses less games than Steve Addazio so that fact combined with the added donations and season tickets sold have made this a good decision. The hire has generated enthusiasm in the program not seen since 2007.
*fewer
and shouldn’t it read more?
hail Dooder, message board king
by Dick Rosenthal on Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:40 pm
hansen {l Wrote}:Corporal Funishment {l Wrote}:Tom Dooder {l Wrote}:hansen {l Wrote}:There’s no way the Jeff Hafley loses less games than Steve Addazio so that fact combined with the added donations and season tickets sold have made this a good decision. The hire has generated enthusiasm in the program not seen since 2007.
*fewer
and shouldn’t it read more?
hail Dooder, message board king
It should indeed say more.
Interesting article about less vs fewer on ibpedia: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fewer_versus_less. The distinction between the two originated around the late 1700s and is now falling out of favor again as seen by my “mistake”. That is strange to me and I can’t think of another example where we are reverting to a historical usage after moving away from
It.
by hansen on Sun Dec 22, 2019 7:11 pm
Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}:hansen {l Wrote}:Corporal Funishment {l Wrote}:Tom Dooder {l Wrote}:hansen {l Wrote}:There’s no way the Jeff Hafley loses less games than Steve Addazio so that fact combined with the added donations and season tickets sold have made this a good decision. The hire has generated enthusiasm in the program not seen since 2007.
*fewer
and shouldn’t it read more?
hail Dooder, message board king
It should indeed say more.
Interesting article about less vs fewer on ibpedia: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fewer_versus_less. The distinction between the two originated around the late 1700s and is now falling out of favor again as seen by my “mistake”. That is strange to me and I can’t think of another example where we are reverting to a historical usage after moving away from
It.
The Court finds in favor of Tom Dooder. Hansen is ordered to pay costs.
by TontoKowalski on Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:34 am
by OCs_Inner_Eagle on Mon Dec 23, 2019 9:46 am
Logitano {l Wrote}:RegalBCeagle {l Wrote}:I was talking to a friend of mine - a local HS FB Coach and I asked what he thought of the Hafley hire. He mentioned that he had heard that Hafley was BC's 3rd choice, and that 2 other coaches were offered the job and turned it down. I haven't really seen anything suggesting this was the case, except for this snippet from footballscoop.com - although it doesn't actually say others were offered the job:
Navy’s Ken Niumatalolo was a strong candidate for the position, but as evidenced by his dalliances with BYU and Arizona, he’s proven famously difficult to pull out of Annapolis. Once Niumatalolo and another candidate removed themselves from the process, BC quickly moved to Hafley.
Anyone hear anything more? Not that it matters at this point, but it would make for some interesting analysis of the who and why.
BC offering two other coaches and being turned down is an outright lie. Sounds like people we are recruiting against putting out misinformation.
Niumatalolo was not ever a strong candidate for the job.
Those that know me will back up that I told them Hafley was our new coach as early as 12/7 and I never wavered.
Did BC meet other people? Yes. Did anyone else get put up for the job? No.
If anything the acceptance of this rumor by a local coach shows how much the locals love to shit on BC.
by claver2010 on Mon Dec 23, 2019 9:56 am
Logitano {l Wrote}:RegalBCeagle {l Wrote}:I was talking to a friend of mine - a local HS FB Coach and I asked what he thought of the Hafley hire. He mentioned that he had heard that Hafley was BC's 3rd choice, and that 2 other coaches were offered the job and turned it down. I haven't really seen anything suggesting this was the case, except for this snippet from footballscoop.com - although it doesn't actually say others were offered the job:
Navy’s Ken Niumatalolo was a strong candidate for the position, but as evidenced by his dalliances with BYU and Arizona, he’s proven famously difficult to pull out of Annapolis. Once Niumatalolo and another candidate removed themselves from the process, BC quickly moved to Hafley.
Anyone hear anything more? Not that it matters at this point, but it would make for some interesting analysis of the who and why.
BC offering two other coaches and being turned down is an outright lie. Sounds like people we are recruiting against putting out misinformation.
Niumatalolo was not ever a strong candidate for the job.
Those that know me will back up that I told them Hafley was our new coach as early as 12/7 and I never wavered.
Did BC meet other people? Yes. Did anyone else get put up for the job? No.
If anything the acceptance of this rumor by a local coach shows how much the locals love to shit on BC.
by HJS on Mon Dec 23, 2019 11:09 am
claver2010 {l Wrote}:Logitano {l Wrote}:RegalBCeagle {l Wrote}:I was talking to a friend of mine - a local HS FB Coach and I asked what he thought of the Hafley hire. He mentioned that he had heard that Hafley was BC's 3rd choice, and that 2 other coaches were offered the job and turned it down. I haven't really seen anything suggesting this was the case, except for this snippet from footballscoop.com - although it doesn't actually say others were offered the job:
Navy’s Ken Niumatalolo was a strong candidate for the position, but as evidenced by his dalliances with BYU and Arizona, he’s proven famously difficult to pull out of Annapolis. Once Niumatalolo and another candidate removed themselves from the process, BC quickly moved to Hafley.
Anyone hear anything more? Not that it matters at this point, but it would make for some interesting analysis of the who and why.
BC offering two other coaches and being turned down is an outright lie. Sounds like people we are recruiting against putting out misinformation.
Niumatalolo was not ever a strong candidate for the job.
Those that know me will back up that I told them Hafley was our new coach as early as 12/7 and I never wavered.
Did BC meet other people? Yes. Did anyone else get put up for the job? No.
If anything the acceptance of this rumor by a local coach shows how much the locals love to shit on BC.
as usual logi is right
ken n was never a legit candidate and the footballscoop's report was bullshit, bringing his religion into it was a dead give away
logi, didn't see you at the westchester christmas party. maybe the shore road crew maps to the bronx alumni chapter?
by twballgame9 on Mon Dec 23, 2019 11:09 am
by claver2010 on Mon Dec 23, 2019 11:17 am
HJS {l Wrote}:For better or worse, Jarmond identified, went after and landed his first choice... Jeff Hafley. Time will tell if that decision was the best, but the process yielded the exact coach that the AD wanted.
by xu9697 on Mon Dec 23, 2019 11:53 am
by Logitano on Mon Dec 23, 2019 2:22 pm
claver2010 {l Wrote}:Logitano {l Wrote}:RegalBCeagle {l Wrote}:I was talking to a friend of mine - a local HS FB Coach and I asked what he thought of the Hafley hire. He mentioned that he had heard that Hafley was BC's 3rd choice, and that 2 other coaches were offered the job and turned it down. I haven't really seen anything suggesting this was the case, except for this snippet from footballscoop.com - although it doesn't actually say others were offered the job:
Navy’s Ken Niumatalolo was a strong candidate for the position, but as evidenced by his dalliances with BYU and Arizona, he’s proven famously difficult to pull out of Annapolis. Once Niumatalolo and another candidate removed themselves from the process, BC quickly moved to Hafley.
Anyone hear anything more? Not that it matters at this point, but it would make for some interesting analysis of the who and why.
BC offering two other coaches and being turned down is an outright lie. Sounds like people we are recruiting against putting out misinformation.
Niumatalolo was not ever a strong candidate for the job.
Those that know me will back up that I told them Hafley was our new coach as early as 12/7 and I never wavered.
Did BC meet other people? Yes. Did anyone else get put up for the job? No.
If anything the acceptance of this rumor by a local coach shows how much the locals love to shit on BC.
as usual logi is right
ken n was never a legit candidate and the footballscoop's report was bullshit, bringing his religion into it was a dead give away
logi, didn't see you at the westchester christmas party. maybe the shore road crew maps to the bronx alumni chapter?
by hansen on Mon Dec 23, 2019 2:56 pm
HJS {l Wrote}:claver2010 {l Wrote}:Logitano {l Wrote}:RegalBCeagle {l Wrote}:I was talking to a friend of mine - a local HS FB Coach and I asked what he thought of the Hafley hire. He mentioned that he had heard that Hafley was BC's 3rd choice, and that 2 other coaches were offered the job and turned it down. I haven't really seen anything suggesting this was the case, except for this snippet from footballscoop.com - although it doesn't actually say others were offered the job:
Navy’s Ken Niumatalolo was a strong candidate for the position, but as evidenced by his dalliances with BYU and Arizona, he’s proven famously difficult to pull out of Annapolis. Once Niumatalolo and another candidate removed themselves from the process, BC quickly moved to Hafley.
Anyone hear anything more? Not that it matters at this point, but it would make for some interesting analysis of the who and why.
BC offering two other coaches and being turned down is an outright lie. Sounds like people we are recruiting against putting out misinformation.
Niumatalolo was not ever a strong candidate for the job.
Those that know me will back up that I told them Hafley was our new coach as early as 12/7 and I never wavered.
Did BC meet other people? Yes. Did anyone else get put up for the job? No.
If anything the acceptance of this rumor by a local coach shows how much the locals love to shit on BC.
as usual logi is right
ken n was never a legit candidate and the footballscoop's report was bullshit, bringing his religion into it was a dead give away
logi, didn't see you at the westchester christmas party. maybe the shore road crew maps to the bronx alumni chapter?
Logi was in on Hafley from the beginning and throughout the process (OMG Tim effing Murphy waffling aside).
As a post mortem... Fickell and Hafley were the only 2 consistent names out there from the start. I believe that both wanted the job. I believe that Marty realized early on that he likely could only go after one of the two (as neither would be willing to sit as a backup). Marty chose Hafley. Once Marty chose Hafley, he had to land him. I think that the process from that point on was navigating BC. Marty went through with interviews of with other candidates (the only ones with legs seem to be Bielema, Waldron, Washington, Elko, Lea and DeBoer). I do not believe Monken, Murphy or Ken N were ever involved... I doubt they got anything but possibly a phone call arranged by their agent. To that end, I also think another nonsense (blauds) rumor was that Hafley walked from negotiations because of a lack of commitment from BC. Hafley wanted the job from the jump. There was never a point where BC gave him enough pause to walk from the opportunity. The delay was purely BC folks wanting to Marty to talk to different people... and coordinating an interview with Leahy.
For better or worse, Jarmond identified, went after and landed his first choice... Jeff Hafley. Time will tell if that decision was the best, but the process yielded the exact coach that the AD wanted.
by MF73-Eleazar on Mon Dec 23, 2019 3:16 pm
by TontoKowalski on Mon Dec 23, 2019 3:52 pm
MF73-Eleazar {l Wrote}:I don't think Hafley will be here for very long.
by innocentbystander on Mon Dec 23, 2019 3:53 pm
HJS {l Wrote}:claver2010 {l Wrote}:Logitano {l Wrote}:RegalBCeagle {l Wrote}:I was talking to a friend of mine - a local HS FB Coach and I asked what he thought of the Hafley hire. He mentioned that he had heard that Hafley was BC's 3rd choice, and that 2 other coaches were offered the job and turned it down. I haven't really seen anything suggesting this was the case, except for this snippet from footballscoop.com - although it doesn't actually say others were offered the job:
Navy’s Ken Niumatalolo was a strong candidate for the position, but as evidenced by his dalliances with BYU and Arizona, he’s proven famously difficult to pull out of Annapolis. Once Niumatalolo and another candidate removed themselves from the process, BC quickly moved to Hafley.
Anyone hear anything more? Not that it matters at this point, but it would make for some interesting analysis of the who and why.
BC offering two other coaches and being turned down is an outright lie. Sounds like people we are recruiting against putting out misinformation.
Niumatalolo was not ever a strong candidate for the job.
Those that know me will back up that I told them Hafley was our new coach as early as 12/7 and I never wavered.
Did BC meet other people? Yes. Did anyone else get put up for the job? No.
If anything the acceptance of this rumor by a local coach shows how much the locals love to shit on BC.
as usual logi is right
ken n was never a legit candidate and the footballscoop's report was bullshit, bringing his religion into it was a dead give away
logi, didn't see you at the westchester christmas party. maybe the shore road crew maps to the bronx alumni chapter?
Logi was in on Hafley from the beginning and throughout the process (OMG Tim effing Murphy waffling aside).
As a post mortem... Fickell and Hafley were the only 2 consistent names out there from the start. I believe that both wanted the job. I believe that Marty realized early on that he likely could only go after one of the two (as neither would be willing to sit as a backup). Marty chose Hafley. Once Marty chose Hafley, he had to land him. I think that the process from that point on was navigating BC. Marty went through with interviews of with other candidates (the only ones with legs seem to be Bielema, Waldron, Washington, Elko, Lea and DeBoer). I do not believe Monken, Murphy or Ken N were ever involved... I doubt they got anything but possibly a phone call arranged by their agent. To that end, I also think another nonsense (blauds) rumor was that Hafley walked from negotiations because of a lack of commitment from BC. Hafley wanted the job from the jump. There was never a point where BC gave him enough pause to walk from the opportunity. The delay was purely BC folks wanting to Marty to talk to different people... and coordinating an interview with Leahy.
For better or worse, Jarmond identified, went after and landed his first choice... Jeff Hafley. Time will tell if that decision was the best, but the process yielded the exact coach that the AD wanted.
by ATLeagle on Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:10 pm
by hansen on Mon Dec 23, 2019 6:51 pm
ATLeagle {l Wrote}:Even if you don't believe the BC story, even the most jaded BC fan knows that no one gets offered anything until after the Leahy sit-down. Hafley was the only one to get an offer post Leahy. Clark Lea was the other guy to get a Leahy meeting.
Also don't believe the hype that coaches turn down jobs. Maybe when a guy has a job but even then, they listen. Most guys never get their shot and many more never get a second chance.
by DomingoOrtiz on Mon Dec 23, 2019 7:22 pm
hansen {l Wrote}:ATLeagle {l Wrote}:Even if you don't believe the BC story, even the most jaded BC fan knows that no one gets offered anything until after the Leahy sit-down. Hafley was the only one to get an offer post Leahy. Clark Lea was the other guy to get a Leahy meeting.
Also don't believe the hype that coaches turn down jobs. Maybe when a guy has a job but even then, they listen. Most guys never get their shot and many more never get a second chance.
ATL, Who else got Leahy sitdowns?
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