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dtwalrus {l Wrote}:

eagle33 {l Wrote}:OOC will be cupcake city as long as Bates is in charge. Look at the teams he's scheduled since he's been here. Stanford is the only name team I can think of. A lot of the remaining fan base might be dead by the time those games get played. We need to get rid of this guy, he is just an awful fit at BC.

Cupcake as in only one P5 and two G5's and an FCS every year, absolutely. I think Bates would love to go 3-1 OOC every year at the very worst.

Cupcake in terms of the one P5 marquee game, that remains to be seen. Purdue is cupcake P5, but there weren't many options left and we're rebuilding. I'd like to hope that moving forward Bates will be targeting more P5's like Stanford than like Purdue.

Personally, moreso than the OOC schedule, I think Bates needs to push for changes to the ACC scheduling. It's time for a Big East and ACC Division split. Give us VT, Miami, Louisville, Syracuse, VT and Pitt every year and the home slate starts looking better already. Just get rid of the fucking Carolina teams.

Howard and Wagner say hi.

In your ACC/BE split, we already play VT, Louisville and Cuse every year. You would exchange annual games with Clemson and FSU for games with Pitt and Miami. I'm not in favor of that. It would be nice to have Miami and Pitt on the schedule more often than NC State and Wake but that's the price you pay in the age of realignment. Can't wait to see what the B12 ends up looking like if/when they expand.

dtwalrus {l Wrote}:

eagle33 {l Wrote}:

dtwalrus {l Wrote}:

eagle33 {l Wrote}:OOC will be cupcake city as long as Bates is in charge. Look at the teams he's scheduled since he's been here. Stanford is the only name team I can think of. A lot of the remaining fan base might be dead by the time those games get played. We need to get rid of this guy, he is just an awful fit at BC.

Cupcake as in only one P5 and two G5's and an FCS every year, absolutely. I think Bates would love to go 3-1 OOC every year at the very worst.

Cupcake in terms of the one P5 marquee game, that remains to be seen. Purdue is cupcake P5, but there weren't many options left and we're rebuilding. I'd like to hope that moving forward Bates will be targeting more P5's like Stanford than like Purdue.

Personally, moreso than the OOC schedule, I think Bates needs to push for changes to the ACC scheduling. It's time for a Big East and ACC Division split. Give us VT, Miami, Louisville, Syracuse, VT and Pitt every year and the home slate starts looking better already. Just get rid of the fucking Carolina teams.

Howard and Wagner say hi.

In your ACC/BE split, we already play VT, Louisville and Cuse every year. You would exchange annual games with Clemson and FSU for games with Pitt and Miami. I'm not in favor of that. It would be nice to have Miami and Pitt on the schedule more often than NC State and Wake but that's the price you pay in the age of realignment. Can't wait to see what the B12 ends up looking like if/when they expand.

I'm also assuming no permanent crossover in my scenario.

1) Trading FSU for Miami annually.
2) Trading Clemson for Pitt annually.
3) Trading NCST and Wake annually for two crossover's, which in most years would include one of either FSU, Clemson or GT.

Trades 1 and 2 alone aren't worth it, but trade number 3 makes it all worthwhile. Especially if you go to a 9 game schedule too, then you're playing 3/7 crossover every year and Clemson and FSU every other year practically.

DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:2021 feels like a million years from now, but I will probably go.

mod6A {l Wrote}:

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claver2010 {l Wrote}:yay?

better than uconn series, still underwhelming

a solid "meh". decent amount of alum in philly.

Eaglekeeper {l Wrote}:Trade out NC St for Pitt and FSU for Miami in the Atlantic. BC, Pitt & SU should be in the same division along with Miami.

BCSUPERFAN22 {l Wrote}:Temple added to schedule in 2018 (BC) and 2021 (Philly).

dtwalrus {l Wrote}:

Eaglekeeper {l Wrote}:Trade out NC St for Pitt and FSU for Miami in the Atlantic. BC, Pitt & SU should be in the same division along with Miami.

I'm sure we're not the only ones complaining. NCST and Wake don't get to play Duke every year.

It's time to do a Big East / ACC split. Initially, Swofford was probably worried about integrating the Big East schools in the culture of the ACC. But now, where 14 team conferences are the norm, pretending everyone is going to have equal interest in playing everyone else in such a large conference is naive. Embrace the history and rivalries that exist within the old setup.

Also, the biggest hold-up to doing a straight Big East / ACC split initially was the difficulty of putting all NC schools in the same division. Back when the ACC was only 12 teams that would've been Clemson, GT, NCST, Wake, Duke and UNC. At the time that was 4 bad teams and 2 good teams. Way too much competitive inequality. But now with Louisville and Syracuse also from the old Big East, pushing FSU into the ACC division; and most especially the fact that Duke and UNC have taken big steps forward competitively, there would be much less competitive inequality from an Big East / ACC Split. Has to happen.

ACC East:
- VT
- Louisville
- Miami
- BC
- Syracuse
- Pitt
- UVa

ACC Coastal:
- Clemson
- GT
- FSU
- UNC
- Wake
- Duke
- NCST

The only complication is maintaining the few necessary crossovers (Miami-FSU and UVa-UNC)

Eaglekeeper {l Wrote}:The ACC/Big East split is perfect if ND joins. I like it for baseball too.

Hansen {l Wrote}:

Eaglekeeper {l Wrote}:Trade out NC St for Pitt and FSU for Miami in the Atlantic. BC, Pitt & SU should be in the same division along with Miami.

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Temple is fine for a 1-for-1.

I have 0 interest in scheduling Arkansas, that game makes no sense whatsoever

DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Temple is fine for a 1-for-1.

I have 0 interest in scheduling Arkansas, that game makes no sense whatsoever

Apples & oranges. Temple falls into the Directional Michigan, Yukon... cupcake category. Arkansas (and where did you see this?) would fall into the Purdue, Stanford... but not quiet 0.0hio St., USC category. Tiers 3, 2, and 1 if you will. I have no interest in playing Arkansas, Purdue or 0.0hio St. As long as we have to play FSU, Clempson, VTech & Louisville every season, I am not sure why we should play a tier 2 & 1 nonconf in the same season.
Some teams I would like to play: Iowa, Texas, Florida, Georgia, LSU, Auburn, Tennessee, Wisc.

claver2010 {l Wrote}:didn't the acc try to pass deregulation on determining the conf championship teams and it failed?

just get rid of the dopey cross over rivalry game, not rocket science

Bryn Mawr Eagle {l Wrote}:Philly is cracking down on dumpster pools? Ugh. So my plan for the big Temple/BC hot-tub meet up just became more difficult: http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/weak-ass-bureaucrats-to-heroic-philly-citizens-stop-tu-1784822038

Bryn Mawr Eagle {l Wrote}:Philly is cracking down on dumpster pools? Ugh. So my plan for the big Temple/BC hot-tub meet up just became more difficult: http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/weak-ass-bureaucrats-to-heroic-philly-citizens-stop-tu-1784822038

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:For the record I don't think BB is mandating BC play these awful OOCs. Daz wants 4 easy wins every year and can't even beat wake.

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:For the record I don't think BB is mandating BC play these awful OOCs. Daz wants 4 easy wins this year.

eagle33 {l Wrote}:

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:For the record I don't think BB is mandating BC play these awful OOCs. Daz wants 4 easy wins this year.

If Sarge is OK with scheduling teams like Howard and Wagner I don't want him coaching my team. They do nothing to help BC's image or improve the team. The fact Bates is scheduling teams like this shows he just doesn't get it, is a horrible fit at BC, and should not be our AD. Please God, let the Blauds rumor be true.