Fill In The Corners?

[claver2010]

not sure if the link will work but master blake sent out a survey with various club options they're considering

https://www.interceptsurveys.com/BCFoot ... 8aa081869e

[DuchesneEast]

Filling it out now, I just gave my email address and went through.
Thanks.

[JesuitIvy]

Clearly they are considering replacing some of the benches with stadium seats, which would get my wife more interested in coming with me. They also are considering stuff for the biz school alum, like overpriced endzone suites with shades for those who keeps the blinds closed during the day to stare at their Bloomberg terminal better
They need more bathrooms in general - last time I took my wife and daughters they missed a quarter waiting to use the can. Fill in the corners with bathrooms and maybe I'd sit in the upper deck once in a while.

[Bryn Mawr Eagle]

Some of these improvements would be nice. But the clear theme of the survey is "What do we need to build/change to get more people to buy season tickets?"

Living 300 miles away I won't be buying season tickets. Pretty much every game has single-game ticket availability up till the last minute, and coupled with their availibility on the secondary market there is little reason to buy season ticket packages. No matter what they do I'll continue to buy and go to 1 or 2 games a year as my schedule allows. But more tailgaiting spots, better cell coverage and wifi in the building, and (now that I'm well into my 50's) replacing benches with better seating would all help make the experience a little better.

Putting the taigaiting accessibility issue aside, all in all it is still a great place to watch a game.

[ATLeagle]

Some of these improvements would be nice. But the clear theme of the survey is "What do we need to build/change to get more people to buy season tickets?"

Living 300 miles away I won't be buying season tickets. Pretty much every game has single-game ticket availability up till the last minute, and coupled with their availibility on the secondary market there is little reason to buy season ticket packages. No matter what they do I'll continue to buy and go to 1 or 2 games a year as my schedule allows. But more tailgaiting spots, better cell coverage and wifi in the building, and (now that I'm well into my 50's) replacing benches with better seating would all help make the experience a little better.

Putting the taigaiting accessibility issue aside, all in all it is still a great place to watch a game.

The resale market has killed the need for season tickets. This is not just a BC problem.

[JesuitIvy]

I'm perfectly fine with them finding ways to get deep pocketed alum to buy suites and stuff - I think there's a market of people who want to pay up for premium experiences. But that's above my station.
I think just as a fan who doesn't have a lot of money but likes to go to games Alumni really lags MiLB, let alone MLB, NBA etc in concessions I actually want to buy.

[innocentbystander]

Some of these improvements would be nice. But the clear theme of the survey is "What do we need to build/change to get more people to buy season tickets?"

I don't think there is anything they can do. There are not enough living BC alumni on the planet (at any time) that could buy up the seats. The Saturday night game against Florida State in 2007 (when BC was 8-0 and ranked #2 in the BCS) that didn't even fill the stands to capacity. If that can't, nothing can. Math is just, math.

[BostonCollege1]

Some of these improvements would be nice. But the clear theme of the survey is "What do we need to build/change to get more people to buy season tickets?"

I don't think there is anything they can do. There are not enough living BC alumni on the planet (at any time) that could buy up the seats. The Saturday night game against Florida State in 2007 (when BC was 8-0 and ranked #2 in the BCS) that didn't even fill the stands to capacity. If that can't, nothing can. Math is just, math.

I assume you're forgetting (maybe because you weren't there), but the most memorable aspect of that game was the deluge from a sub-tropical storm that was the remnant of a hurricane.

Since then, a succession of incompetent ADs have hired a succession of incompetent head coaches, yet the game vs. Missouri in 2021 sold out, as did the 2016 & 2018 Clemson games and the 2010, 2012 & 2017 ND games. Several other games have had attendance over 40,000. Yes, mostly big-time opponents who also travel well, but that's the case across college football. Look at mighty Miami's attendance if they aren't on track to win a national championship. Texas has had plenty of empty seats across the last 10+ years.

It's the same at most other schools - a combination of a good team, playing a good opponent, in good weather, will produce crowds. To give an example closer to home for you, ASU's Tempe campus enrolls over three times the number of students as Boston College (70,000+!), yet they reduced the size of "Mountain America" Stadium from ~72,000 to 53,599, which isn't much more capacity than Alumni Stadium has. They also have many more students at nearby campuses, and a huge local alumni base, yet they only had two sell outs in 2023, none in 2022, one in 2021, etc.

Please change your location to Big-12 Hell.

[innocentbystander]

Some of these improvements would be nice. But the clear theme of the survey is "What do we need to build/change to get more people to buy season tickets?"

I don't think there is anything they can do. There are not enough living BC alumni on the planet (at any time) that could buy up the seats. The Saturday night game against Florida State in 2007 (when BC was 8-0 and ranked #2 in the BCS) that didn't even fill the stands to capacity. If that can't, nothing can. Math is just, math.

I assume you're forgetting (maybe because you weren't there), but the most memorable aspect of that game was the deluge from a sub-tropical storm that was the remnant of a hurricane.

Since then, a succession of incompetent ADs have hired a succession of incompetent head coaches, yet the game vs. Missouri in 2021 sold out, as did the 2016 & 2018 Clemson games and the 2010, 2012 & 2017 ND games. Several other games have had attendance over 40,000. Yes, mostly big-time opponents who also travel well, but that's the case across college football. Look at mighty Miami's attendance if they aren't on track to win a national championship. Texas has had plenty of empty seats across the last 10+ years.

It's the same at most other schools - a combination of a good team, playing a good opponent, in good weather, will produce crowds. To give an example closer to home for you, ASU's Tempe campus enrolls over three times the number of students as Boston College (70,000+!), yet they reduced the size of "Mountain America" Stadium from ~72,000 to 53,599, which isn't much more capacity than Alumni Stadium has. They also have many more students at nearby campuses, and a huge local alumni base, yet they only had two sell outs in 2023, none in 2022, one in 2021, etc.

Please change your location to Big-12 Hell.

#1 TTTTU (Tempe's Twerking Tube Top University) sucks balls at football (at the moment.) 1997 was a lifetime ago.
#2 I don't give a fuck if TTTTU sells out and neither do you. So mentioning them as comparison to BC is pointless
#3 Nothing that TTTTU could do to sell out Diablo Stadium has any impact on what BC would or could do to sell out their stadium
#4 In 1997, TTTTU likely sold out every game. Which was my point about 2007 when BC had the best team ever in the entire history Boston College football. And yet, they didn't sell out a damn Saturday night game vs Florida Fucking State
#5 Bill O'Brien needs to recruit players the caliber equal to what Toby recruited, he needs to keep them (prevent them from transferring), and he needs to fucking win. If he does that, then we can start to talk about making changes to sell out these games.
#6 Don't mention Notre Dame. That is an outlier. People in Boston are fucktarded. They will buy season's tickets to BC if (and ONLY if) one of the home games is Notre Dame. Then that is the only game they attend and they give the other tickets away, put them up on a stub hub site to sell at discount, or throw them away. BC doesn't give a fuck, they got all their money

Your point on Big-XII Hell is noted. And I will change.

[BostonCollege1]

Some of these improvements would be nice. But the clear theme of the survey is "What do we need to build/change to get more people to buy season tickets?"

I don't think there is anything they can do. There are not enough living BC alumni on the planet (at any time) that could buy up the seats. The Saturday night game against Florida State in 2007 (when BC was 8-0 and ranked #2 in the BCS) that didn't even fill the stands to capacity. If that can't, nothing can. Math is just, math.

I assume you're forgetting (maybe because you weren't there), but the most memorable aspect of that game was the deluge from a sub-tropical storm that was the remnant of a hurricane.

Since then, a succession of incompetent ADs have hired a succession of incompetent head coaches, yet the game vs. Missouri in 2021 sold out, as did the 2016 & 2018 Clemson games and the 2010, 2012 & 2017 ND games. Several other games have had attendance over 40,000. Yes, mostly big-time opponents who also travel well, but that's the case across college football. Look at mighty Miami's attendance if they aren't on track to win a national championship. Texas has had plenty of empty seats across the last 10+ years.

It's the same at most other schools - a combination of a good team, playing a good opponent, in good weather, will produce crowds. To give an example closer to home for you, ASU's Tempe campus enrolls over three times the number of students as Boston College (70,000+!), yet they reduced the size of "Mountain America" Stadium from ~72,000 to 53,599, which isn't much more capacity than Alumni Stadium has. They also have many more students at nearby campuses, and a huge local alumni base, yet they only had two sell outs in 2023, none in 2022, one in 2021, etc.

Please change your location to Big-12 Hell.

#1 TTTTU (Tempe's Twerking Tube Top University) sucks balls at football (at the moment.) 1997 was a lifetime ago.
#2 I don't give a fuck if TTTTU sells out and neither do you. So mentioning them as comparison to BC is pointless
#3 Nothing that TTTTU could do to sell out Diablo Stadium has any impact on what BC would or could do to sell out their stadium
#4 In 1997, TTTTU likely sold out every game. Which was my point about 2007 when BC had the best team ever in the entire history Boston College football. And yet, they didn't sell out a damn Saturday night game vs Florida Fucking State
#5 Bill O'Brien needs to recruit players the caliber equal to what Toby recruited, he needs to keep them (prevent them from transferring), and he needs to fucking win. If he does that, then we can start to talk about making changes to sell out these games.
#6 Don't mention Notre Dame. That is an outlier. People in Boston are fucktarded. They will buy season's tickets to BC if (and ONLY if) one of the home games is Notre Dame. Then that is the only game they attend and they give the other tickets away, put them up on a stub hub site to sell at discount, or throw them away. BC doesn't give a fuck, they got all their money

Your point on Big-XII Hell is noted. And I will change.

I think you're making my point, which is that schools not only need to win to fill their stadiums, they also need to create a great atmosphere that makes it better to watch in person vs. the couch. There are relatively simple things BC can do to provide a better game-day experience (for all sports), and I think we're starting to see some progress under Blake James. He's been better AD than I thought he would be, maybe because he's experienced enough to know how to focus on the basics like hiring (potentially) good coaches.

[Bryn Mawr Eagle]

I got an email that they are offering single-game parking in the upper Brighton parking lot with full tailgaiting. That is a great move.

[DuchesneEast]

Upper Brighton - Full Tailgating Parking Permit
$600.00 for the Michigan State game...damn.

[Logitano]

Some of these improvements would be nice. But the clear theme of the survey is "What do we need to build/change to get more people to buy season tickets?"

I don't think there is anything they can do. There are not enough living BC alumni on the planet (at any time) that could buy up the seats. The Saturday night game against Florida State in 2007 (when BC was 8-0 and ranked #2 in the BCS) that didn't even fill the stands to capacity. If that can't, nothing can. Math is just, math.

I assume you're forgetting (maybe because you weren't there), but the most memorable aspect of that game was the deluge from a sub-tropical storm that was the remnant of a hurricane.

Since then, a succession of incompetent ADs have hired a succession of incompetent head coaches, yet the game vs. Missouri in 2021 sold out, as did the 2016 & 2018 Clemson games and the 2010, 2012 & 2017 ND games. Several other games have had attendance over 40,000. Yes, mostly big-time opponents who also travel well, but that's the case across college football. Look at mighty Miami's attendance if they aren't on track to win a national championship. Texas has had plenty of empty seats across the last 10+ years.

It's the same at most other schools - a combination of a good team, playing a good opponent, in good weather, will produce crowds. To give an example closer to home for you, ASU's Tempe campus enrolls over three times the number of students as Boston College (70,000+!), yet they reduced the size of "Mountain America" Stadium from ~72,000 to 53,599, which isn't much more capacity than Alumni Stadium has. They also have many more students at nearby campuses, and a huge local alumni base, yet they only had two sell outs in 2023, none in 2022, one in 2021, etc.

Please change your location to Big-12 Hell.

#1 TTTTU (Tempe's Twerking Tube Top University) sucks balls at football (at the moment.) 1997 was a lifetime ago.
#2 I don't give a fuck if TTTTU sells out and neither do you. So mentioning them as comparison to BC is pointless
#3 Nothing that TTTTU could do to sell out Diablo Stadium has any impact on what BC would or could do to sell out their stadium
#4 In 1997, TTTTU likely sold out every game. Which was my point about 2007 when BC had the best team ever in the entire history Boston College football. And yet, they didn't sell out a damn Saturday night game vs Florida Fucking State
#5 Bill O'Brien needs to recruit players the caliber equal to what Toby recruited, he needs to keep them (prevent them from transferring), and he needs to fucking win. If he does that, then we can start to talk about making changes to sell out these games.
#6 Don't mention Notre Dame. That is an outlier. People in Boston are fucktarded. They will buy season's tickets to BC if (and ONLY if) one of the home games is Notre Dame. Then that is the only game they attend and they give the other tickets away, put them up on a stub hub site to sell at discount, or throw them away. BC doesn't give a fuck, they got all their money

Your point on Big-XII Hell is noted. And I will change.

I think you're making my point, which is that schools not only need to win to fill their stadiums, they also need to create a great atmosphere that makes it better to watch in person vs. the couch. There are relatively simple things BC can do to provide a better game-day experience (for all sports), and I think we're starting to see some progress under Blake James. He's been better AD than I thought he would be, maybe because he's experienced enough to know how to focus on the basics like hiring (potentially) good coaches.

Retardo glossed right over the point that the FSU game in '07 was played during a tropical storm. Retardo has to retardo!

[twballgame9]

Some of these improvements would be nice. But the clear theme of the survey is "What do we need to build/change to get more people to buy season tickets?"

I don't think there is anything they can do. There are not enough living BC alumni on the planet (at any time) that could buy up the seats. The Saturday night game against Florida State in 2007 (when BC was 8-0 and ranked #2 in the BCS) that didn't even fill the stands to capacity. If that can't, nothing can. Math is just, math.

I assume you're forgetting (maybe because you weren't there), but the most memorable aspect of that game was the deluge from a sub-tropical storm that was the remnant of a hurricane.

Since then, a succession of incompetent ADs have hired a succession of incompetent head coaches, yet the game vs. Missouri in 2021 sold out, as did the 2016 & 2018 Clemson games and the 2010, 2012 & 2017 ND games. Several other games have had attendance over 40,000. Yes, mostly big-time opponents who also travel well, but that's the case across college football. Look at mighty Miami's attendance if they aren't on track to win a national championship. Texas has had plenty of empty seats across the last 10+ years.

It's the same at most other schools - a combination of a good team, playing a good opponent, in good weather, will produce crowds. To give an example closer to home for you, ASU's Tempe campus enrolls over three times the number of students as Boston College (70,000+!), yet they reduced the size of "Mountain America" Stadium from ~72,000 to 53,599, which isn't much more capacity than Alumni Stadium has. They also have many more students at nearby campuses, and a huge local alumni base, yet they only had two sell outs in 2023, none in 2022, one in 2021, etc.

Please change your location to Big-12 Hell.

#1 TTTTU (Tempe's Twerking Tube Top University) sucks balls at football (at the moment.) 1997 was a lifetime ago.
#2 I don't give a fuck if TTTTU sells out and neither do you. So mentioning them as comparison to BC is pointless
#3 Nothing that TTTTU could do to sell out Diablo Stadium has any impact on what BC would or could do to sell out their stadium
#4 In 1997, TTTTU likely sold out every game. Which was my point about 2007 when BC had the best team ever in the entire history Boston College football. And yet, they didn't sell out a damn Saturday night game vs Florida Fucking State
#5 Bill O'Brien needs to recruit players the caliber equal to what Toby recruited, he needs to keep them (prevent them from transferring), and he needs to fucking win. If he does that, then we can start to talk about making changes to sell out these games.
#6 Don't mention Notre Dame. That is an outlier. People in Boston are fucktarded. They will buy season's tickets to BC if (and ONLY if) one of the home games is Notre Dame. Then that is the only game they attend and they give the other tickets away, put them up on a stub hub site to sell at discount, or throw them away. BC doesn't give a fuck, they got all their money

Your point on Big-XII Hell is noted. And I will change.

I think you're making my point, which is that schools not only need to win to fill their stadiums, they also need to create a great atmosphere that makes it better to watch in person vs. the couch. There are relatively simple things BC can do to provide a better game-day experience (for all sports), and I think we're starting to see some progress under Blake James. He's been better AD than I thought he would be, maybe because he's experienced enough to know how to focus on the basics like hiring (potentially) good coaches.

Retardo glossed right over the point that the FSU game in '07 was played during a tropical storm. Retardo has to retardo!

I came back to note that in a hurricane, that game was pretty much full. IB is a fucking stupid shit Northeastern grad and you all are fucking dumb for giving him a forum I no longer pay attention to.

[durkcal]

Paid attendance at BC games is going to pick up. Belief in the coach is not quantifiable. When was the last time we had that? 2008? Maybe for a snippet of early 2021 when C19 was still around? Anything they do to improve the experience is just gravy. If the Patriots are still down (as still seems likely), we will do even better. Not saying sell outs. But attendance is headed up. Again, the paid kind, and not the free kid giveaways.

[BostonCollege1]

Interesting to see that Doak's capacity will shrink to ~70,000 once FSU is done with their renovations.